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Old 07-19-2016, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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There is no one who wants to ban guns. That's NRA propaganda.

Yes, we should regulate trucks, and indeed we do. In fact trucks are much more regulated than guns in the U.S. You need a special commercial license to operate a truck, need to be regularly recertified, and need to submit safety logs.
I don't possess a CDL. I have not been certified, much less recertified. And I have no safety logs to submit. And yet, I can waltz into any U-Haul office, with nothing more than a regular driver's license and a credit card, and drive off in a nice, big, potentially deadly truck. Indeed, I've done it, several times. No waiting period or background check (beyond perhaps a look at my driving record, if that) necessary.

Just think . . . those times when I was behind the wheel of that truck, there was NOTHING stopping me from just swerving onto the sidewalk and plowing into a crowd of people. Well, actually, that's not true. There was one thing stopping me: I don't have hatred in my heart for anyone and everyone who does not share my religion and my culture.

Unfortunately, what happened in Nice was not the first time that a truck was used for mass murder (recall that the Oklahoma City bombing was carried out with a Ryder truck). And it likely won't be the last. If you believe that no one should be permitted to drive a truck unless they pass a background check and possess a CDL, then go ahead and say so. U-Haul and Ryder will be put out of business, but the professional mover's association will be very happy! And the murderous ideology that is the root cause of all this terrorism will march on, trucks or no trucks.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:43 AM
 
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Yes, and they lost several dozen lives there - several dozen too many. That is not their war. They have no stakes in it and should have never been there in the first place. But that is part of what NATO is about: getting other nations to shed their blood for American interests.
Thanks for clearing everything up. Now I understand where you are coming from and that it's not worth my time to have a logical political discussion with you. In case you have not noticed, Europe is under assault. Being an anti-American terrorist sympathizer will not save you in the event that you are ever in a Batacan type situation. They will only care that you are not one of them. I would further encourage you to investigate history to see who has spilled more blood for who before making ludicrous statements about whose interests are at stake.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Yes, and they lost several dozen lives there - several dozen too many. That is not their war. They have no stakes in it and should have never been there in the first place. But that is part of what NATO is about: getting other nations to shed their blood for American interests.
Oh please. There are currently twenty countries supporting the military actions in Afghanistan. These countries are working with Afghans to train and strengthen and rebuild their forces in order to fight against the Taliban. But why?


Here's a simplistic breakdown of it:

Afghanistan is chock full of lithium, natural gas, and minerals. But most importantly, Afghanistan is the land of pipelines that transport very valuable products from bordering ME countries. If western countries do not have access to and control of at least SOME Afghan pipelines, then all the products that run through those pipelines are controlled by China and Russia, which gives these two rather untrustworthy world powers a definite edge. This would not only negatively impact the US, but also the entire western world - not just with prices but also at the price of stability.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Germany has never been military active. It is very good for their finances and they can let US/UK/France to do the job for them.
Do you know How much the UK and France spend in Military Budget compared to Germany?

Yesterday, the UK (tory and labour) voted for Trident! 100 billion euros more !
But not a good thing.

Germany needs to arm itselft.
My point was that Germany sent combat troops to Afghanistan - and they actually fought there, had casualties there, and killed local people there. The US is not the only country with an active military presence in Afghanistan - nor is it the only country that potentially benefits from military action in that country.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Wonderland
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We Europeans have lived next to these countries for centuries and managed to protect ourselves just fine. And when Islam tried to attack, we struck back with equal violence. It is only when the big brother moved in, that Europe has suddenly become vulnerable.

And I forgot to mention that the USA is where the ideology of multiculturalism and multiracialism was engendered.
So you are blaming the US for European immigration policies? Wow.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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We Europeans have lived next to these countries for centuries and managed to protect ourselves just fine. And when Islam tried to attack, we struck back with equal violence. It is only when the big brother moved in, that Europe has suddenly become vulnerable.
Kindly consult a history book. And as you read it, ask yourself just who it was that helped push back the Kaiser's armies. And then, ask yourself who it was that turned the tide of World War II and defeated Nazism. (To be sure, with indispensable help from Great Britain, as well as valuable help from the French Resistance and others.) And then, ask yourself who it was that rolled back the Iron Curtain. (Again, with much help from Great Britain and Poland and Pope John Paul II and many others.)

The fact is, the United States has been THE single greatest force for good for Europe in the past 100 years. This cannot be denied by anyone with an intellectually honest understanding of history. Oh, and it wasn't us who invited the Muslim hordes into your countries!
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:50 AM
 
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Thanks for clearing everything up. Now I understand where you are coming from and that it's not worth my time to have a logical political discussion with you. In case you have not noticed, Europe is under assault. Being an anti-American terrorist sympathizer will not save you in the event that you are ever in a Batacan type situation. They will only care that you are not one of them. I would further encourage you to investigate history to see who has spilled more blood for who before making ludicrous statements about whose interests are at stake.
How did Americans help us in the Bataclan?
I just remember the USA did not intervern during WW2 and let European and Russian doing the job before comming in Normandy. (Only at the end of the war after 60 million people died)
I also remember they are responsible for WW2 with the UK because they needed money and helped Germany for rearmament when France did not have money to buy stuff.
We prayed the USA and UK not to help Germany for rearmament.

I also remember that Americans on French soil violated all women on their way..

never heard about it in the USA or abroad...

And today Americans say they saved the world and French people during WW2... -_-"

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Old 07-19-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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How Americans help us in the Bataclan?
I just remember the USA did not intervern during WW2 and let European and Russian doing the job before comming in Normandy. (Only at the end of the war after 60 million people died)
I also remember they are responsible for WW2 with the UK because they needed money and helped Germany for rearmament when France did not have money to buy stuff.
We prayed the USA and UK not to help Germany for rearmament.

I also remember that Americans on French soil violated all women on their way..

never heard about it in the USA or abroad...

And today Americans say they save the world and French people during WW2... -_-"
Put down the Kool Aid.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Hamburg, Deutschland
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So you are blaming the US for European immigration policies? Wow.
No, not only. But really, can you imagine Germany pursuing the same immigration policies any time before 1945, before the US moved in? I can't.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:54 AM
 
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Not even one week after the Riviera slaughter! the rythm of the attacks in Europe is getting faster and faster, until...until what ? I'm curious to know. Future will tell. I believe mayhem is just about beginning.
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