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Little countries of no importance, power or influence should not talk about things above there paygrade, like NATO, that is for tge ones who lead it USA/UK, spain is a gratefull beneficiery of the protection the leading countries give it, but as a beneficiery of the charity of bigger nations it sacrifices its right to be a real nation in any meaningfull way, its the price of allowing others to pay your bills and look after you, you become just a part of their'sphere of influence'
Like UK in the sphere of influence of USA?
Only 4 countries will have a significant military power in the future, USA, China, India and I add Russia because of their thousands warheads (because else they are peanuts, level of UK or France).
As for France and UK, they clearly are the two armies with capacities of projection in Europe, and some member like to hide behind them.... That's an other debate.
Except leveling Spain with a bunch of ICBM Trident, UK has 0 chance alone against Spain on its soil.
Little countries of no importance, power or influence should not talk about things above there paygrade, like NATO, that is for tge ones who lead it USA/UK, spain is a gratefull beneficiery of the protection the leading countries give it, but as a beneficiery of the charity of bigger nations it sacrifices its right to be a real nation in any meaningfull way, its the price of allowing others to pay your bills and look after you, you become just a part of their'sphere of influence'
Seems like you just defined now how Britain exists thanks to the US and how they act like a daddy for you.
Funny the history invention thing: According to you Spain has never won the UK and they leaved when the UK was approaching.
Since when you changed the history? The UK hasn't got even a small chance to defeat Spain in Spanish territory!!! lol
Seems like you just defined now how Britain exists thanks to the US and how they act like a daddy for you.
Funny the history invention thing: According to you Spain has never won the UK and they leaved when the UK was approaching.
Since when you changed the history? The UK hasn't got even a small chance to defeat Spain in Spanish territory!!! lol
To be fair he is right. Also if it wasn't for Britain being the only country standing up to the Nazi's in 1939 then there wouldn't have been a Dday and British soldiers wouldn't have liberated our European cousins in 1945 and you would probably be living under the Nazi jackboot and speaking German right now. As for the Falklands if the Argentinians I don't think they are stupid enough to try and invade again (once bitten and twice shy).
Britain has TWO aircraft SUPERcarriers under construction right now, britain is one of only three countries in the world with a blue water navy, obviously spain is not, britain has intercontinental ballistic nuclear nissiles, spain does not, britain has beaten spain in every conflict theyve ever had, tho mostly spain would leave a territory as soon as britain arrived, so as to avoid embarrasing defeat. Spains military is not in the same category as britains, its several leagues lower and ridiculous to compare. As for the english channel... if that didnt exist, all europeans would today be speaking english..oh wait, they allready do
The matter of Gibraltar and a war with Spain is an thing absurd .-
Spain has not thought or said anything of wars with the UK by a rock today without any military value .-
Only some UK politician has made the ridiculous bluffing presuming of his insignificant military power, compared next to the giants Russia China and the USA.-
The sensible english and Spaniards , they think unanimously, in continue being allies , and leave the matter of Gibraltar until that Gibraltar for UK the costs be too and give it to us ,.
Another thing is the false claim that the english in their history always won to the Spaniards,.-
For 2 Centuries the Spaniards the defeated constantly to the english .-
Some defeats of the english were catastrophic like the one of Cartagena of Indias the admiral Vernon with the admiral Blas of Lezo
What is certain that these military defeats of the english were dissimulated very well and in this things always were more clever than the Spaniards.--
Spain was a neutral country, as Portugal, Sweden and Switzerland.
Spain had the opportunity to invade Gibraltarl with the help of Germans thank to OPERATION PHOENIX, but Franco said NO.
Franco, a General, told Hitler in Hendaya...if you keep messing with England, the Americans will come as in WWI.
Anyways, German were friends, former allies in the Civil War.
Spain defeated England many times, in fact, when English started to eat proteins, Spain had been a very large empire during 200 years.
If it wasn't for the RAF and the Battle of Britain you would be speaking German now, not only that the British helped rid Iberia of Napolean, the words you are looking for are 'thank' and 'you'.
If it wasn't for the RAF and the Battle of Britain you would be speaking German now, not only that the British helped rid Iberia of Napolean, the words you are looking for are 'thank' and 'you'.
I heard this "you would be speaking German now" many times and everytime the stupidity shocks me.
The UK was able to stand up against Nazi mostly because it is an island and therefore hard to occupy. If Britain were located where France is, it would be conquered within a matter of weeks too.
If it were not for the United States, the UK would have falled anyway. You are vastly overestimating your country's glory.
And even without US help, Europe would not be speaking German right now. Germany would be defeat eventually, just later. It is asine to suggest Germany would be able to conquer every European country permanently. Plus, its invadion of Russia sort of sealed its fate.
And also, nobody needs to say "thank you" to Britain for defeating Napoleon. The UK's foreign policy was never meant to help any weak country, but to prevent a strong one from rising. To that effect, it was pure self-interest, nothing more. Actually, the UK was pretty obnixious for meddling in so many European affairs that don't concern it.
I heard this "you would be speaking German now" many times and everytime the stupidity shocks me.
The UK was able to stand up against Nazi mostly because it is an island and therefore hard to occupy. If Britain were located where France is, it would be conquered within a matter of weeks too.
If it were not for the United States, the UK would have falled anyway. You are vastly overestimating your country's glory.
And even without US help, Europe would not be speaking German right now. Germany would be defeat eventually, just later. It is asine to suggest Germany would be able to conquer every European country permanently. Plus, its invadion of Russia sort of sealed its fate.
And also, nobody needs to say "thank you" to Britain for defeating Napoleon. The UK's foreign policy was never meant to help any weak country, but to prevent a strong one from rising. To that effect, it was pure self-interest, nothing more. Actually, the UK was pretty obnixious for meddling in so many European affairs that don't concern it.
Ah the old 'if it wasn't for the US' argument lol. Lets put it this way, if the RAF hadn't defeated the Nazis then there would have been NO Dday, the US wouldn't have been in a position to HELP the UK liberate France, our European cousins would not have been liberated. The second world war was from 1939 to 1945 NOT from 1941 to 1945. I say again without the British standing up to Hitler ALONE then Karsic would be speaking German right now. If it wasn't for Nelson or Wellington his countrymen could well have been speaking French before that, I know it sticks in the throats of our European 'friends' right now but Britain has come to its aid 3 times in the last couple of hundred years, that is just a fact.
Ah the old 'if it wasn't for the US' argument lol. Lets put it this way, if the RAF hadn't defeated the Nazis then there would have been NO Dday, the US wouldn't have been in a position to HELP the UK liberate France, our European cousins would not have been liberated. The second world war was from 1939 to 1945 NOT from 1941 to 1945. I say again without the British standing up to Hitler ALONE then Karsic would be speaking German right now. If it wasn't for Nelson or Wellington his countrymen could well have been speaking French before that, I know it sticks in the throats of our European 'friends' right now but Britain has come to its aid 3 times in the last couple of hundred years, that is just a fact.
So you imagine without the US involvement, the UK would have no only stayed free, but also landed on Europe continent and "liberated" all those conquered nations? Wow, I never knew the British could be so megalomanic.
And no, Britian didnt come to aid. It just used its usual tactic to work with other disgruntled kings to fight someone it didn't like at that moment. There is no glory in that. It is just kings using each other.
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