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Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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The "feel" is subjective of course. So I would dare to claim that walking along Hämeenkatu in Tampere will probably feel more closer to Vilnius than to Lyon, but when a person opens his/her mouth, the person from Tampere will have much more common ground with the person from Lyon than with the person from Vilnius, though Vilnius is geographically much more closer to Tampere.
Well, i agree that the «*feel*» can be a subjective thing and that we should compare things on objective things. But what i don.t understand is in what way a person from tampere way of speaking would be more similar ot Lyon’s than to Vilnius. From a french point of view finnish looks as foreign as lithuanian.
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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it's only 3.5 hours by train from Helsinki to Saint Petersburg, but sometimes it feels you've entered a completely different worlds.
I can understand that. Sometimes places that are relatively close in Europe can feel like another world.
When I take the eurostar or thalys from Paris in gare du nord and then have a drive to London or Amsterdam i am always amazed how it is possbile to a such a constras in terms of ambiance and culture in so few times. That is a great thing about our continent where very different cultures are concentrated in a small place.
So by your reasoning black people speaking English anywhere are Germanic. It doesnt matter what language they speak. If you knew history you'd know Northern Italy was part of Germany for hundreds of years. I already mentioned the region being named after a people from Sweden. Northern Italians and Northern Italy (the northern third of the country at least) are historically, ethnically, culturally Germanic and this may just be a stereotype but physically they usually look the same as Germans too. Whether you agree or not doesnt matter as these are the stereotypes of what the majority of people would think about this subject regardless of what you personally think. By the way, nobody considers Italy as anything "latin". That would be Spain that gets associated with that
I understand that they are regional-nationalist, but does Lega Nord consider Padania to be northern Europe?
In the late 1980s/early-mid 1990s, the answer was yes.
They realize now that instead of one restrictive and rapacious master, Rome, they have two, Rome and Brussels, so now the propaganda is to try to be their own thing again.
But what they are really interested in is their own political careers, a business like any other. They have been quite successful.
Northern Italy and north Italians are Germanic so it cant really be southern Europe
Nope. The entirety of Italy is southern Europe, and Milano is a southern European city in any possible sense. Denying this is like denying that the Earth is round, just makes you even more delusional and you can't be taken as something else which is not a joke. This whole thread is a freaking joke, saying Milano is northern European is like saying that Lisbon is central Europe.
You said that Italians are nordics, that you can't distinguish between a Swede and an Italian, that Italy is a Germanic country, that southern Italians are 2nd class peasants who are not considered Italians in Italy and you said as well that Italy has nothing to do with Iberia or Greece, that these are peasants compared to the Aryan, pure and nordic Italians. You can't be serious, you are either blind or too blind by your false nationalism and inferiority complex. You're practically contradicting the history and DNA of Italy and Italians and changing it to a false one, the one which is an invention made by yourself!
It seems you can't get that Italians are in average (and stereotypically) olive skinned with dark hair, purely southern Mediterranean and you wan't to convince yourself that the world is plain and not round. Italians are very proud of their Mediterranean heritage and Italian is the most Latin language you can ever find no matter how much you try to deny it. Any normal Italian would laugh at you.
The "feel" is subjective of course. So I would dare to claim that walking along Hämeenkatu in Tampere will probably feel more closer to Vilnius than to Lyon, but when a person opens his/her mouth, the person from Tampere will have much more common ground with the person from Lyon than with the person from Vilnius, though Vilnius is geographically much more closer to Tampere.
yeah, anyone can have his own feel. The funny thing about Lyon is that it is either considered northern or southern by french people, depending on who you ask it to. I agree that some of the buildings may have a southern feel, but I don't think it's that visible or prevalent. I was mostly thinking about cultural traits / people behavior, food, and many little things that according to me differ greatly from the traditional southern French culture. Not to say it is 0% southern, just like Milan has a southern feel while being quite different from Rome.
The last good friend I made here is a guy from Prague who moved here for work. I get along very well with him, and so do I with my other best foreign friend in Bologna which comes from Concepcion, Chile. We're all "europeans" in a way and being a foreigner makes you closer to other foreigners I guess, regardless of geographical origin. I never meet scandinavians or finns here but I don't think we'd be culturally that far away.
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Italians are very proud of their Mediterranean heritage and Italian is the most Latin language you can ever find no matter how much you try to deny it. Any normal Italian would laugh at you.
