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Old 08-16-2021, 03:24 AM
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Some of their countries have birth rates well below replacement level.
Given the fact that many jobs will be replaced by automation in the future, lower birth rates might not be such a bad thing in terms of house prices and general quality of life.

 
Old 08-16-2021, 06:46 AM
 
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Wow. Bad news.

I expect that a lot of those Africans are going to try to migrate to the United States and Europe, but already some parts of Europe are sending them home. It is a real recipe for a human disaster.




I got that, but I have seen estimates that by year 2100, one in four people on earth will be descended from "black" Africans, for lack of a better word. That is really going to flip the script on a lot of things.And with birthrates crashing elsewhere, it will be interesting to see if countries start competing for that African labor.
Well Africa is far bigger than the USA. In time the African population will decline. In the more developed parts of Africa the birth rates are low. As more African countries become developed the population rates will decline in them.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 06:53 AM
 
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Given the fact that many jobs will be replaced by automation in the future, lower birth rates might not be such a bad thing in terms of house prices and general quality of life.

Debatable and very optimistic, most people aren't as smart as you think they are. Don't forget the Luddite:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite


It's hard to imagine all manual labour to be handed over to machines.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 09:01 AM
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Debatable and very optimistic, most people aren't as smart as you think they are. Don't forget the Luddite:

It's hard to imagine all manual labour to be handed over to machines.
The manufacturing sector is already becoming ever more automated. with little resistance, and other sectors will follow.

How quickly this happens to what extent depends on which of the many reports that have been published you most agree with.

If you go to Japan, you find all kinds of labour saving devices, and vending machines often replace interaction with people.

You can also increasingly order goods and services on line, and have your shopping delivered to your home, and they are even trialling robots in this respect.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 09:06 AM
 
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Italy alone has 60 million people packed in a country the size of Arizona. It's not going to self destruct and die from lack of population anytime soon. It would probably benefit from a smaller population in the long run as would most of Europe.

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Old 08-16-2021, 11:23 AM
 
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Of course Europe is not dying. Eventually birth rates will go up as things adjust. Meanwhile, you do have immigrants who come from all around the world to Western Europe.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 11:44 AM
 
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Of course Europe is not dying. Eventually birth rates will go up as things adjust. Meanwhile, you do have immigrants who come from all around the world to Western Europe.

Why, what would be the reasons behind it may I ask?
And what "things" adjust?
 
Old 08-16-2021, 06:53 PM
 
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Well Africa is far bigger than the USA. In time the African population will decline. In the more developed parts of Africa the birth rates are low. As more African countries become developed the population rates will decline in them.
I got all that, but the point is, based on what is happening right now, there is going to come a time when Africans have more political and economic power than ever before in history.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 07:09 PM
 
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Given the fact that many jobs will be replaced by automation in the future, lower birth rates might not be such a bad thing in terms of house prices and general quality of life.

Smaller population isn't a bad thing, but declining population is concerning. When a larger percentage of the population are not working, the economy will collapse.
 
Old 08-16-2021, 08:17 PM
 
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Given the fact that many jobs will be replaced by automation in the future, lower birth rates might not be such a bad thing in terms of house prices and general quality of life.
It is a bad thing in terms of pension and social securities.

But Europe will not die. There will always be a ton of refugees and migrants as Europe used to stir up **** everywhere and now those places are complete shambles, e.g. Afghanistan. European economy isn't doing so hot though.
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