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Old 01-26-2022, 12:02 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Works for me.





Britain does and we all know about Britain and Ireland.

In case you need your memory refreshed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLPYAKL-f2M
And what do you 'think' you know about Britain and Ireland exactly?
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Old 01-26-2022, 12:05 PM
 
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Except the countries that have the Black Sea as an official border are: Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey, Georgia. I don't see UK's name nor can the UK go there without the help of Turkey, it's not the same as a Russian ship traversing the ocean 100 miles short of the UK.
If Russian ships sail through the English channel they are NOT 100 miles from the UK, the Russian war games off the coast of Ireland are nowhere near the UK, Ireland is obviously NOT the UK.
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Old 01-26-2022, 06:46 PM
 
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Well yes, because Putin is a maniac and wants to start WWIII and send Europe back to the Stone Age, get with the program already.

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Old 01-26-2022, 07:17 PM
 
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Hold on there, now, Pilgrim
If we're going to go back that far in history, shouldn't Russia be expected to give St Petersburg back to the Swedes?
(Peter The Great annexed the area in order to give Russia a worthwhile seaport)

Now why would this be a case, since it was not exactly a *gift* you know, but Sweden ceded it as the result of the war ( or rather Russian victory in that war.)

Treaty of Nystad.

Same with Crimea - it was not *gifted* to Russians, they've got it by their sweat and blood, wrestling it from Crimean Khanate in 1973, that was a vassal of the Ottoman Empire - i.e. providing it with slave trade first of all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

And when it comes to Sweden - the reason Peter the Great was fighting it tooth and nail was precisely for that access to the Baltic Sea, that Russia needed badly for trade with Europe, and that Sweden was denying.

(As you probably know, Peter was hugging the Swedish generals after that battle, calling them "his teachers.")


And since I am at it, this is what keeps on puzzling me to no end - the fact that the West often calls Russia "unpredictable."

But each and every Russian geopolitical move back in history was always logically supporting the idea of the safety of "Russia's operation" as a state - first and utmost.

Like removal of the slave trade/establishment of the naval base in Crimea, or access to the Baltic sea in order to keep the trade with Europe going.

Or eradication of any threat of the radical Islam in Caucasus, where Russians might feel that their pipes ( whatever pipes they are - gas or oil) are threatened.

So any time one of those sensitive points is targeted - Russians react in quite predictable way ( as it was in Georgia, as it's now in Ukraine)

So why the West calls Russia "unpredictable" is a mystery to me.

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Old 01-26-2022, 07:40 PM
 
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If Russian ships sail through the English channel they are NOT 100 miles from the UK, the Russian war games off the coast of Ireland are nowhere near the UK, Ireland is obviously NOT the UK.

Sorry, couldn't help it, but I just thought of something now...

During one of the recent "60 minutes" shows, one of the Russian MPs ( he is from Southern Russia originally) was giving his "piece of mind" on the Western demands/sanctions/WTO/Ukraine and the rest.

So Jens Stoltenberg with all his anti-Russian rhetoric got his attention lately, and he was like " let this Stoltenberg in his Denmark shove it where the sun doesn't shine with his "Russia doesn't have a right to do this or that."

The host of the program: "A., Stoltenberg is from Norway, not Denmark."
A.; "Norway, Denmark - what's the difference, they are all the same over there..."

Host; "And this, A., is exactly what they refer to as "Great Russian Chauvinism"))))




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Old 01-26-2022, 09:17 PM
 
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Sorry, couldn't help it, but I just thought of something now...

During one of the recent "60 minutes" shows, one of the Russian MPs ( he is from Southern Russia originally) was giving his "piece of mind" on the Western demands/sanctions/WTO/Ukraine and the rest.

So Jens Stoltenberg with all his anti-Russian rhetoric got his attention lately, and he was like " let this Stoltenberg in his Denmark shove it where the sun doesn't shine with his "Russia doesn't have a right to do this or that."

The host of the program: "A., Stoltenberg is from Norway, not Denmark."
A.; "Norway, Denmark - what's the difference, they are all the same over there..."

Host; "And this, A., is exactly what they refer to as "Great Russian Chauvinism"))))


Elephant doesn't care what is the exact breed of that annoying piglet running around.
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Old 01-27-2022, 06:52 AM
 
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English channel

On another note I am 99% sure in most of europe or at least eastern europe it's called "La Manche" (lamansh), you can suspect the French may have something to do with it no...
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Old 01-27-2022, 07:15 AM
 
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Elephant doesn't care what is the exact breed of that annoying piglet running around.
Who's the piglet? The tall guy with hair or Mini-me?
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Old 01-27-2022, 07:56 AM
 
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On another note I am 99% sure in most of europe or at least eastern europe it's called "La Manche" (lamansh), you can suspect the French may have something to do with it no...
Is that so? Then perhaps they can go onto a French forum and call it what they like? In English it is obviously the correct name - The English Channel, call it the manche and nobody is going to know what the f*** they're talking about!
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Old 01-27-2022, 09:19 AM
 
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Britain holds exercises mere miles from Sevastopol with fully armed ships. The US flies nuclear capable B52 bombers to within 20 km of Russian airspace.

So?
It does? Source, please? Where does this take place?
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