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Old 04-04-2017, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Vilnius, Lithuania
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I'm not sure whether this is a new thing for people, but ethnically Estonians are not "baltic people". I'm surprised you even talk about this. Unless this is all about the cultural aspect, of course. Anyway, the situation is as follows:
  • Ethno-linguistically there are only two nations that are to be considered as "Baltic nations". These are: Lithuanians and Latvians. There used to be Prussia (and other baltic ethnic groups). Unfortunately they got either assimilated or wiped out.
  • Geopolitically there are three countries that are considered as "Baltic countries". Those are: Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia.

One could simply read a wiki entry regarding this. It is pretty much accurate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_states. Now, regarding the culture. I'm not sure. I've never been in there. Though, judging from the history the three countries had, Estonia could be different. Anyway, in Lithuania whenever people say that Estonia is a Baltic country, they merely mean the geopolitical term. In any other case they just may try to tease them as Estonians seem to be very sensitive about this topic.
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Old 04-04-2017, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Finland
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I'm not sure whether this is a new thing for people, but ethnically Estonians are not "baltic people". I'm surprised you even talk about this. Unless this is all about the cultural aspect, of course. Anyway, the situation is as follows.
Of course it's about the culture. And no, Estonians are definitely not Nordic people, that's for sure. They might be in the next 100 years, but now, no.
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Old 04-05-2017, 03:19 AM
 
Location: Estonia
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Of course it's about the culture. And no, Estonians are definitely not Nordic people, that's for sure. They might be in the next 100 years, but now, no.
Sorry to tell you, you people are not that special. Having an unjustifiably high self-image is nothing to brag about.
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Old 04-05-2017, 03:44 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Sorry to tell you, you people are not that special. Having an unjustifiably high self-image is nothing to brag about.
No, we aren't. And our self-image is quite bipolar.
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Kulgurgurgurl, what you think about this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xDBw8zo0_U

Self-loathing hippie communist crap or accurate?
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Old 04-05-2017, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Estonia
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Kulgurgurgurl, what you think about this?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xDBw8zo0_U

Self-loathing hippie communist crap or accurate?
What exactly are you asking me to address?
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Finland
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What exactly are you asking me to address?
What the guy says.
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Estonia
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What the guy says.
He said many thing? Not going through each of his points, am I?
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Old 04-05-2017, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Finland
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He said many thing? Not going through each of his points, am I?
Pick the ones you want. I'm interested. And what else have you to do? Wanking and drinking beer from Aldi?

You can make it your birthday present for Finland 100 years.

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Old 04-05-2017, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Estonia
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Pick the ones you want. I'm interested. And what else have you to do? Wanking and drinking beer from Aldi?
Estonians are jealous of Finnland - kinda true. Jealous in a way of thinking "If it wasn't for the Soviets, Estonia would be in a similar economic standing as Finnland, if not in a better one."

We look up to them - true. If people compare something or give examples of how things should be, they usually use Finnland as an example. Makes sense as you should try to compare your country to countries that are similar but more advanced as your own. So naturally, we don't compare ourselves to Latvia, rest alone to Russia. And Finnland is more similar to us than Sweden, so.

Estonia tries to emulate Finnland - unfortunately yes. Estonia doesn't have innovators who could try to set a course of where it should try to get to. Our only achievement of the last years has been: "We have a balanced budget and low amount of debt", said by the former party in power, that was it, just great.
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