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Old 08-13-2013, 06:29 PM
 
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I guess our two Senators are getting involved in a little bi-partisan action to express their "concern" over the collapse of oyster fishing in Appalachicola Bay. Apparently Georgia is using more than its "fair share" of water:
APALACHICOLA, Fla.: Rubio and Nelson says action needed for bay - Business Breaking News - MiamiHerald.com

First of all, I like oysters as much as the next person, and I am sorry that Florida's oyster fishing has been diminished. But the problem is, until this year, Georgia has had some major drought problems. Like Florida, Georgia wants to develop beyond its carrying capacity and there has been a major shift of population into Georgia over the past few years, as there has been in Florida. Florida does not lack for water in the upper half of the state. I think we shouldn't be getting into this pissing match with our neighbor state, especially since Georgia's not doing anything worse than what Florida's doing, population and development-wise. And the fact is, that water runs through Georgia. I say tough noogies, Florida. (And I am a Floridian)

And I'd also like to remind our two genius Senators, especially the one who sponsored the Gang of Hate bill, this is what happens when areas become overpopulated and over developed. Opening the floodgates to any and all immigrants, legal and illegal, depletes areas of precious natural resources, especially when said immigrants are prodigious reproducers and so many choose to settle in both Florida and Georgia.

I feel bad for the fisherman, but that's just the way it is. Let Georgia have its water. It needs it more than we do. Institute a relief and retraining program for the fisherman, in the end it's cheaper and demonstrates better manners and goodwill than suing our neighbor state for something we're guilty of as well.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:36 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Yeah, I can't believe that Florida thinks that we're stealing "their" water, when in actuality, it is OUR water that they want to steal, just for a few g-dammed oyster farmers. I say we build a huge dam upstream in GA and keep ALL the water from getting to Florida, see how they like that. At the very least, Georgia needs to implement a huge "anti-Florida" campaign to discourge tourists from visiting that state - let's see how the bleeding fools in Florida like that.

Of course, it's obvious as to who will win that court battle - but it still ticks me off to no end that Florida thinks they can just tell us to not have any drinking water (which is ours to begin with!) just so they can have some g-dammed oysters...gosh, this really grinds my gears...ugh!
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:13 AM
 
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Yeah, I can't believe that Florida thinks that we're stealing "their" water, when in actuality, it is OUR water that they want to steal, just for a few g-dammed oyster farmers. I say we build a huge dam upstream in GA and keep ALL the water from getting to Florida, see how they like that. At the very least, Georgia needs to implement a huge "anti-Florida" campaign to discourge tourists from visiting that state - let's see how the bleeding fools in Florida like that.

Of course, it's obvious as to who will win that court battle - but it still ticks me off to no end that Florida thinks they can just tell us to not have any drinking water (which is ours to begin with!) just so they can have some g-dammed oysters...gosh, this really grinds my gears...ugh!
Although I'm a Floridian, it really grinds me, too. When the issue first came up a few years ago, I contacted the office of the governor at that time, Charlie Crist. I had seen the images on the news of Lake Lanier with the dry docks and the water levels seriously low and other effects of drought in Georgia. I couldn't believe my state would kick a neighbor when it was down. My point of view was the same then as it is now: you work things out with your neighbor, because you never know when you'll need their help in the future.

Florida's got some nerve lecturing Georgia on "poor water conservation practices", what with all the over development and over population here and sinkholes caused by our agriculture industry pumping out the aquifer during the dry months. Florida has a wealth of freshwater springs and rivers in the upper half of the state and it gets a lot of rainfall. If anything Florida should be sending water to Georgia in its times of need. Suing Georgia over what by rights belongs to that state is the height of hypocrisy and insanity.
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Old 08-14-2013, 08:35 AM
 
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Florida has a severe water problem. The water table is dropping (sinkholes) and there is salt water intrusion state wide.
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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The thing is too, that the Atlanta metro area has made huge strides in water conservation, and we pay some of the highest water rates in the country. The old, leaky sewer systems of Atlanta and Dekalb have been rebuilt (or soon to be), saving millions of gallons of wasted water. Also, there are plans to run a pipeline into the Tennessee River (GA is annexing a square mile of Tenn to do this) - this will greatly allieviate the pressure on the Lanier basin - but we need time to get this thing built.

So, with GA doing all it can to provide more water, as well as conserving the water we already have, for its ever-increasing population, I just cannot believe the gall of the FL governor to be suing our state over this.
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Miami
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Yeah, I can't believe that Florida thinks that we're stealing "their" water, when in actuality, it is OUR water that they want to steal, just for a few g-dammed oyster farmers. I say we build a huge dam upstream in GA and keep ALL the water from getting to Florida, see how they like that. At the very least, Georgia needs to implement a huge "anti-Florida" campaign to discourge tourists from visiting that state - let's see how the bleeding fools in Florida like that.

Of course, it's obvious as to who will win that court battle - but it still ticks me off to no end that Florida thinks they can just tell us to not have any drinking water (which is ours to begin with!) just so they can have some g-dammed oysters...gosh, this really grinds my gears...ugh!
Georgia is stealing Florida's water, so stop it. The USA backs Florida.

If Georgia starts an anti-Florida campaign the rest of the nation will certainly be encouraged to come to Florida because they will not have to worry about running into anybody from Georgia while in Florida.
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:52 AM
 
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Georgia is stealing Florida's water, so stop it. The USA backs Florida.
Who says? The rain for the Lanier Basin falls in Georgia, the river runs right by Atlanta, and nobody said boo about Atanta using water drawn from the reservior for many years after that dam was built, so what gives Florida the right to that water?

This is one battle Florida is gonna lose - bet on it.
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:55 AM
 
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Florida has a severe water problem. The water table is dropping (sinkholes) and there is salt water intrusion state wide.
Got a link to that? If this is true, then that's really weird. We just had a buttload of rain, although not so much recently. And we've got a ton of freshwater springs and rivers in the Northern half of the state.

Too many people, too many houses.
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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Too many people in BOTH states! Let some of 'em move!!!!

ETA: Go Guv Scott! Georgia has not been sharing fairly, so they deserve to be sued - I am backing my native state - we need our water!!!

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Old 08-14-2013, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Miami
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Who says? The rain for the Lanier Basin falls in Georgia, the river runs right by Atlanta, and nobody said boo about Atanta using water drawn from the reservior for many years after that dam was built, so what gives Florida the right to that water?

This is one battle Florida is gonna lose - bet on it.

Nah, all, y'all, dudes in Georgia will be forced to stop wasting water on stupid things and Florida will have its fair share of the water. The Atlanta area is going to have drastic water conservation regulations forced upon it.
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