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Old 06-19-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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Its not like we are getting MIT or Harvard Business school talent down here. In fact not even close.
Hope it stays that way. Better for the rest of us with talent and education.... less competition
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Old 06-19-2014, 08:27 AM
 
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Hope it stays that way. Better for the rest of us with talent and education.... less competition
And lower paying wages... Your attitude doesnt suprise me though.

All those fancy rich guys up north PROVIDE jobs that pay pretty well even for regular shclubs like you.
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Old 06-19-2014, 08:39 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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And lower paying wages... Your attitude doesnt suprise me though.

All those fancy rich guys up north PROVIDE jobs that pay pretty well even for regular shclubs like you.
They don't just "provide" jobs - the jobs are available because there is a business need for the role.
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Old 06-19-2014, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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And lower paying wages... Your attitude doesnt suprise me though.

All those fancy rich guys up north PROVIDE jobs that pay pretty well even for regular shclubs like you.

To some of us chasing the almighty dollar isnt part of the plan. Working 50-60 hours a week also is not in our
plans.

Let "All those fancy rich guys up north " bust their butts while some of us are happily enjoying life.

Money isnt the key to happiness. Neither is a high priced college degree.
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:28 AM
 
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Unfortunately, FL doesn't provide a *better* QOL to most of the people who move there because most of the people who move to FL are uneducated, unskilled transplants and immigrants. Not only do those people have to compete for low-wage, low-skill positions with loads of other locals, they also have to deal with the high costs of housing, insurance, utilities, food, etc. on top of it.

That's the reason why you hear of so many people "moving to FL" and then heading back up North a month or two later--I can count at least 10 or so people I went to high school with who did just that over the past 20 years or so, none college-educated, of course. Most, if not all, of my college-educated friends--regardless of where they grew up--would never even *consider* moving to FL.

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Firsthand experience.
Your firsthand experience is wrong, like most of your posts based on your outdated experience living in Boca in 1999.


High-School Dropouts and College Grads Are Moving to Very Different Places - CityLab


Miami is actually seeing a net LOSS of people with high school educations or less, and NET GAIN of those with some college or better.

Compare to New York and LA, where everyone is jumping ship. (LA has an edge over New York for actually getting some net bachelors degree holders).






It really does suck when reality and statistics don't match your beliefs, huh?
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Old 06-19-2014, 10:54 AM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Most of the places gaining educated people are warmer, cheaper, sunbelt cities, with the exception of the California locales. Most of the places losing people are super expensive, cold, rust belt, or some combination thereof. It just follows generation population flows IMO.
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Old 06-19-2014, 12:26 PM
 
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Most of the places gaining educated people are warmer, cheaper, sunbelt cities, with the exception of the California locales. Most of the places losing people are super expensive, cold, rust belt, or some combination thereof. It just follows generation population flows IMO.
If we are talking about places like Houston and Austin, then I am in total agreement. If we are talking about Orlando and Ft Lauderdale, then LOLNO
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:25 PM
 
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If we are talking about places like Houston and Austin, then I am in total agreement. If we are talking about Orlando and Ft Lauderdale, then LOLNO
LMAO.

For population 25 years and over in Fort Lauderdale:

High school or higher: 85.2%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 34.5%
Graduate or professional degree: 14.6%


Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Fort-L...#ixzz3588Nf1Sk



For population 25 years and over in Houston:

High school or higher: 75.4%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 28.7%
Graduate or professional degree: 10.8%


Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Housto...#ixzz3588kzUPA


For population 25 years and over in Orlando:

High school or higher: 87.2%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 31.5%
Graduate or professional degree: 10.1%


Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Orland...#ixzz3588rq5tc

For population 25 years and over in Austin:

High school or higher: 86.0%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 44.5%
Graduate or professional degree: 16.8%


Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Austin...#ixzz3589AtqJi



You get to keep Austin as a consolation prize. Government and Universities concentrated in a city can do that to a locale. See for example: Tallahassee:

For population 25 years and over in Tallahassee:

High school or higher: 92.8%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 48.8%
Graduate or professional degree: 21.2%


Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Tallah...#ixzz3589JWxKm



Since this is a forum and not a conference call featuring d-bags from your northern corporate offices, consider this post my scoffing at the baseless and undeserved intellectual elitism!
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Spring Hill Florida
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LMAO with you. It is so easy to obtain facts so I dont understand why someone would continue to post mis information. Surely they think it is correct or must be correct.


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LMAO.

For population 25 years and over in Fort Lauderdale:

High school or higher: 85.2%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 34.5%
Graduate or professional degree: 14.6%


Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Fort-L...#ixzz3588Nf1Sk



For population 25 years and over in Houston:

High school or higher: 75.4%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 28.7%
Graduate or professional degree: 10.8%


Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Housto...#ixzz3588kzUPA


For population 25 years and over in Orlando:

High school or higher: 87.2%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 31.5%
Graduate or professional degree: 10.1%


Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Orland...#ixzz3588rq5tc

For population 25 years and over in Austin:

High school or higher: 86.0%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 44.5%
Graduate or professional degree: 16.8%


Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Austin...#ixzz3589AtqJi



You get to keep Austin as a consolation prize. Government and Universities concentrated in a city can do that to a locale. See for example: Tallahassee:

For population 25 years and over in Tallahassee:

High school or higher: 92.8%
Bachelor's degree or higher: 48.8%
Graduate or professional degree: 21.2%


Read more: //www.city-data.com/city/Tallah...#ixzz3589JWxKm



Since this is a forum and not a conference call featuring d-bags from your northern corporate offices, consider this post my scoffing at the baseless and undeserved intellectual elitism!
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Old 06-19-2014, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Lincoln County Road or Armageddon
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Your firsthand experience is wrong, like most of your posts based on your outdated experience living in Boca in 1999.


High-School Dropouts and College Grads Are Moving to Very Different Places - CityLab


Miami is actually seeing a net LOSS of people with high school educations or less, and NET GAIN of those with some college or better.

Compare to New York and LA, where everyone is jumping ship. (LA has an edge over New York for actually getting some net bachelors degree holders).






It really does suck when reality and statistics don't match your beliefs, huh?
The strongest associations of high skill occupation group relocation was to metros with abundant cultural offerings and tolerance. "The net migration of college grads was even more closely associated with the concentration of gay and lesbian people. This suggests that open-mindedness, tolerance and diversity plays a substantial role in the migration of highly educated people".

Interesting article but I don't think it takes in account areas like Boston (net loss of college grads). Boston is basically a college town that graduates thousands of people a year who then return home or go elsewhere. Also, metros with a big military presence (San Diego for example) that have personnel rotating out kind of skew the numbers.
Good article, none the less.
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