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Old 02-06-2019, 06:10 AM
 
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Read it and weep:

https://www.winknews.com/2019/02/05/...ades-drilling/

"Overturning a decision by the Florida Department of Environmental Protection, an appeals court Tuesday ordered the state to issue a permit to a major Broward County landowner that wants to drill an exploratory oil well in the Everglades."

It figures that this would be coming out of Broward County. I can't believe this is happening.
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Old 02-06-2019, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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A little about the owners of the land...

https://kanterhealthorg.wordpress.co...-and-chairman/
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:14 AM
 
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Major "philanthropic" health care player, wants to drill for oil. And that's where the cognitive dissonance sets in.

I just LOVE phony philanthropy, don't you? If they want to be philanthropic, leaving their land in pristine condition would work.

LOL, after this, residential property in Western Broward won't be worth a plug nickel.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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I'm guessing (pure 100% w.a.g.) old man Kanter passed away, and the money started to dry up because there were several offspring living off of it. The offspring are needing to generate new income streams (without having to work too hard) from the assets, so they can continue their lifestyles. If I'm wrong, let me apologize in advance.

I'm sorry to say, but that's human nature, so most humans would do the same under the same circumstances. When you are born into great wealth, it's very hard to develop a strict work ethic unless there was very strict parenting. I've seen this play out many times. 2nd generation success, like Trump & Stack (see Dick's Sporting Goods) are 1 in 10's.

There's a 3 in 4 chance the drill comes up dry, so let's all hope for that outcome.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:49 AM
 
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After further consideration, my educated guess is that this move is about something other than what it looks like. The family wants something from the state, the county or some other entity. Maybe it's a play to sell their land off, who knows? Could be a tiff with an adjoining land holder.

Well, the courts have spoken, so let 'em drill. It's unfortunate, but there you have it. I wouldn't give you two cents for the aquifer in that part of the state if the drilling goes ahead. Looks to me like a loaded pistol aimed at the state or county.

Then again, maybe I'm reading it wrong and this is actually a way of making a point about Big Sugar, phosphate mining, etc. Stir up the homeowners and developers, get everyone all hysterical. A 23% chance of striking oil doesn't seem like the odds are worth it for all the expense of exploratory drilling. However, even actual drilling, even if it is exploratory and no oil is found, would be enough to gum up the works and create some long term damage.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Drilling in sensitive areas has come a long ways. In some areas I hunt in CO there are wells that you'd never know were there.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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I'm guessing (pure 100% w.a.g.) old man Kanter passed away, and the money started to dry up because there were several offspring living off of it. The offspring are needing to generate new income streams (without having to work too hard) from the assets, so they can continue their lifestyles. If I'm wrong, let me apologize in advance.

I'm sorry to say, but that's human nature, so most humans would do the same under the same circumstances. When you are born into great wealth, it's very hard to develop a strict work ethic unless there was very strict parenting. I've seen this play out many times. 2nd generation success, like Trump & Stack (see Dick's Sporting Goods) are 1 in 10's.

There's a 3 in 4 chance the drill comes up dry, so let's all hope for that outcome.
Yah, we (my family and I) saw that happen up in Connecticut with a sprawling family trust with many members, which resulted in a rather large piece of forested land being developed and sold. Even the trustee didn't want to see that happen, but couldn't do much about the majority voting for development. Most of the members, even though they were somewhat well off, had their children's futures to consider, college bills to pay, etc.

Even if the drill comes up dry, it's still going to screw things up.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:57 AM
 
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Drilling in sensitive areas has come a long ways. In some areas I hunt in CO there are wells that you'd never know were there.
Betcha they don't have stinking red tide and green algae blooms.
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Old 02-06-2019, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Ormond Beach, FL
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Drilling is an environmentally damaging activity. There is no way to set up a rig in a swamp without changing the area. Besides a pad, you need access roads for heavy trucks. Barite (drilling mud) is not part of the local environment and is chalk full of barium. Building a sump in a swamp is problemtic. Oil spills are common. Drilling crews aren't the best caretakers of environmentally sensitive areas.

The only side benefit is - if you want to do a CT scan of fish or animals from that area, you won't have to give them barium, they will have it already.
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Old 02-07-2019, 05:02 AM
 
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Then i should be allowed to have a small rig in my back yard.
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