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View Poll Results: How Fast Should Florida Be Permitted To Grow?
Keep all zoning laws in place, let each county decide. 8 22.86%
Allow developers to change zoning laws for their own benefit. 2 5.71%
Use state funds to purchase more land for preservation. 6 17.14%
Place a moratorium on all new development and growth. 3 8.57%
Options 3 and 4. 16 45.71%
Voters: 35. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-04-2020, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Hobe Sound, Florida
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Overpopulation is the source of many of Florida's problems.
We need a moratorium on all new development and growth.
Growth is unsustainable.
In 1960, the Florida population was less than 5 million, not many environmental problems.
Now 2020, the population is 21 million and growing, and all local, state, and federal politicians and agencies are working close with all businessmen and corporations to keep developing what is left of Florida.
So growth does matter, and we can't keep allowing more people to move down to Florida.
It's time to stand up to all politicians and all developers.
It's time to downsize and reclaim wild lands, and protect wildlife.
It's time for a moratorium on all new development and growth.
One thing to do is be aware and encourage others to be aware that the system is built to serve the corporate businessmen, and we citizens are not being represented by both political parties.
Another thing to do, is to take any one issue, like the water crisis, and start a class action lawsuit against all private companies and their businessmen who work for them, and all public officials and agents, and go through the legal process of the court system, even though they passed laws making it unlawful to sue public government agents and officials, challenge that in court.
Another thing to do is boycott every single company that is connected to the issue or problem, in any way, that is the only thing that gets their attention.
Another thing to do is get involved in non violent civil disobedience, however that works for each individual.
But to continue to live our lives under the delusion that politicians care for us and work for us and represent us, is worse than doing nothing at all.
It's not just the releases from the Lake, it's the Glyphosate, they have been spraying in the lake and on many lawns for many years along with fertilizers, phosphate mining, and even septic tank intrusion and all of the over-development in Florida, that is creating a witches brew of toxic poisons, that is destroying our environment, our wildlife, our way of life, and even our health and very lives.

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Old 05-04-2020, 01:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Extreme_Pacifist View Post
Overpopulation is the source of many of Florida's problems.
We need a moratorium on all new development and growth.
Growth is unsustainable.**
In 1960, the Florida population was less than 5 million, not many environmental problems.
Now 2020, the population is 21 million and growing, and all local, state, and federal politicians and agencies are working close with all businessmen and corporations to keep developing what is left of Florida.
So growth does matter, and we can't keep allowing more people to move down to Florida.
It's time to stand up to all politicians and all developers.
It's time to downsize and reclaim wild lands, and protect wildlife.
It's time for a moratorium on all new development and growth.
One thing to do is be aware and encourage others to be aware that the system is built to serve the corporate businessmen, and we citizens are not being represented by both political parties.
Another thing to do, is to take any one issue, like the water crisis, and start a class action lawsuit against all private companies and their businessmen who work for them, and all public officials and agents, and go through the legal process of the court system, even though they passed laws making it unlawful to sue public government agents and officials, challenge that in court.
Another thing to do is boycott every single company that is connected to the issue or problem, in any way, that is the only thing that gets their attention.
Another thing to do is get involved in non violent civil disobedience, however that works for each individual.
But to continue to live our lives under the delusion that politicians care for us and work for us and represent us, is worse than doing nothing at all.
It's not just the releases from the Lake, it's the Monsanto Glyphosate, they have been spraying in the lake and on many lawns for many years along with fertilizers, Mosaic phosphate mining, and even septic tank intrusion and all of the over-development in Florida, that is creating a witches brew of toxic poisons, that is destroying our environment, our wildlife, our way of life, and even our health and very lives.
Agreed 200%
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Old 05-04-2020, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Not too far East of the Everglades
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I truly do not believe Florida (I have lived in the Sunshine State since 1973), has a problem at all. You posters might !!!!

Overpopulation it's found everywhere in this day and age.
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Old 05-04-2020, 03:37 PM
 
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OP I have been saying it for years, Florida's growth is largely unsustainable. The issue I see here much more than anywhere else is over duplication of the same things like gas stations, convenience stores, bank branches, mini strip centers and fast food restaurants to name a few. At every major intersection and along every new road this happens eventually. Where I live in Seminole County hardly a tract of land available to build on remains available as developers mow down every tree on the property with approval from our politicians and seemingly no concern what residents may think. Like it or not this is a Florida problem because you do not see this type of "growth and development" in other fast growing states like Georgia or the Carolinas for example. It's time to try and slow things down, enact moratoriums on certain types of growth (no, we don't need a fourth gas station at that intersection) or enact other sane measures to prevent more leech developers from destroying what's left.
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Old 05-04-2020, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Behind two gates and a nice wall
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I say keep on keeping on. Build it and they will come. That is a good thing.
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Old 05-04-2020, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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I tend to fall somewhat in the middle on the growth or no growth debate. Pick up a copy of the Florida Gazetteer road atlas and flip through the maps. There's a very large chunk of the state that is owned by the federal/state/local government that is very hard to impossible to put into private hands. (Rick Scott tried and had to back off amid shouting from both sides of the aisle in Tallahassee) We should continue to buy up environmentally sensitive land under Florida Forever and other conservation programs while at the same time working with developers to make sure less interesting areas are developed in more sustainable ways that enable new residents to not have to spend more than an hour in the car every day to get to job/school/shopping. And as a sometime cyclist, please require nice fat bike lanes that are somewhat shielded from drunk and distracted drivers.

At the same time, Florida remains a series of fragile ecosystems and we can do better when it comes to environmental protection, both in terms on enforcing the rules already on the books and funding research on how to improve and revise policies to make things better here.
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Old 05-04-2020, 04:48 PM
 
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The problem is not overpopulation, the problem is that there are no affordable housing options being built.

In north Florida we have several counties with less than 10,000 people total.

Drive away from the metro areas and you will see nothing for hundreds of miles.
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Old 05-04-2020, 05:50 PM
 
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I find plenty of probs jenny. Too much traffic and peeps. Weather also has warmed up so much since i started keeping records in the 1970's.
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Old 05-04-2020, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Less Urban Sprawl, More Transit Oriented Smart Growth.
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Old 05-04-2020, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Behind two gates and a nice wall
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Less Urban Sprawl, More Transit Oriented Smart Growth.
Please keep that thinking up there. That thinking already destroyed the quality of life up there. Let us enjoy how we have it down here.
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