11-01-2021, 06:16 PM
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Guys,
Can some one put me out of my misery as I am trying to decide on place to settle in the near future?
Background:
My wife is looking to relocate to South Florida next year. We currently live in Chicago metro and do not have detailed information as what it is like liiving in either of those cities mentioned in the title. We have visited both places several times for a few days last and this year and both of these cities seem nice and appealing with its own flavors.
My wife is a sales professional in food and bev industry and I am in telecom working for large cable operator. I am 56 years old and do feel the age but my wife is 44 and feels like in her 30th. She likes energy and enterteinment with night life as well as outdore activites and fitness. Also she is facinated by latin dance and music. She is more appealed to the city vibes and more attractred to younger crowed. She likes spanish folks and lationo culture.I am more laid back but do not mind occasional trips to clubs and restaurants. I found great passion to gulf beaches and send quality buit again I was not in everywhere on the Atlantic side to make a judgment , althouth Miami beach is exciting but again it is an only a beach I was at on atlantic ocean. One thing is look at everything as a turist and another thing as a resident . This is where I need people's opinion if I were to choose between Doral and Sarasota/Naples that are oppiste sides in South Floroda. What would you suggest/recommend to consider? I love Naples more for it's pristine view and cleanless but my wife loves Doral more because it is more entertaining and younger population. Safety is also a concern beside quality of life in general. Considering demografics and everything else mentioned above, what would you recommend ? Forgot to mention, we have a daughter 19 and she is looking for public college next year (community or simmilar) Social life for her is an importent as an ability to make friends and hang out. Public transit also is a concern as she does not drive yet. Any suggestions would be greartly appreciated. I woud like to hear from folks who knows any or both places as to live and not to visit for a few days.
11-01-2021, 11:34 PM
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56 and 44? Naples and Sarasota will feel VERY old compared to the Miami area. Southwest Florida is for older folks. I'm 38 and Southwest FL feels very old to me. I lived in Naples for 10 years when I was a kid before moving back north for 10 years. Naples was older crowd back then but feels even older now.
Manatee County on south to Collier County is the oldest median age area of Florida.
Okay, you're 56
But I mean people like in their mid 60s and higher. Especially during season it will seem a lot older than you. I'm 38 but I don't consider 56 "old."
Your wife being 44 might feel a bit different though being in an older area. Now I don't like Miami because it's very expensive and congested.
Tampa might be another alternative. It's younger there too than SWFL and being from Chicago it will be a large city so everything within a shorter distance.
I'm from St. Louis myself and used to everything being within 20 miles of me which was amazing. Here in Southwest FL I gotta drive 40-50 miles or more for stuff. If you live in Sarasota might have to drive up to Tampa. Being in the Miami area everything will be close by being a major city.
At least with Sarasota, Tampa is still not a super far drive though if you want stuff to do.
Naples might be different. big city is a long long drive to the East Coast or Tampa. And being your wife is only 44 years old I know I wouldn't want to live in Naples, especially if I were single and younger.
If heavy traffic and congestion is no big deal for you being used to Chicago traffic then I'd go with Doral. Otherwise Tampa might be one to consider too.
Your daughter is 19 though which is also a HUGE factor why I wouldn't recommend Southwest FL. When I lived in Naples in high school everyone wanted to move out of southwest FL because they were bored with it and everything being centered around older folks. Many of them no longer live in the region now.
This is why I think Tampa would be a more logical choice for a 19 year old then SWFL. If you're living in Dade County one also might want to know Spanish too. Cost is also a factor too. Not sure how good your job pays working for a cable company, BUT it's very expensive in the Miami area, especially where you mentioned. Unless I had a doctor's salary I wouldn't live around there because it wouldn't be in an area I'd want to live in.
11-02-2021, 08:30 AM
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Excellent feedback. Just what i was looking for!!!!
Thank youvery much.
11-07-2021, 06:54 AM
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Based on your whole situation I would consider Tampa. Lots of Latino/Spanish vibe there (especially with Ybor City) much younger (and more balanced) ages overall, and fairly easy drive to Sarasota or St. Pete for beaches and even more things to do.
Naples is waaaaay too old and sleepy, your wife would be bored stiff....
11-07-2021, 08:30 AM
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What jumped out in your post was the desire for public transit for your daughter. Getting around on buses in Tampa wouldn't be my idea of fun. I think her quality of life in Florida would be much better if she got her licence before coming here.
11-07-2021, 02:36 PM
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What jumped out in your post was the desire for public transit for your daughter. Getting around on buses in Tampa wouldn't be my idea of fun. I think her quality of life in Florida would be much better if she got her licence before coming here.
Doesn't seem very safe to me, especially in a major city like Tampa. I wouldn't ride Public Transit in any major city!
11-23-2021, 09:27 PM
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I'm from St. Louis myself and used to everything being within 20 miles of me which was amazing. Here in Southwest FL I gotta drive 40-50 miles or more for stuff. If you live in Sarasota might have to drive up to Tampa. Being in the Miami area everything will be close by being a major city.
Hey, I was just curious as to what "stuff" you're talking about that you have to drive 40-50 miles for. I'm assuming you mean for major concerts or nightlife? Otherwise, I can't think of anything that Sarasota doesn't have nearby.
Anyway, OP, as soon as I read that your wife is 44 and looking for major nightlife, I was going to tell you to cross Sarasota off the list.
11-23-2021, 11:50 PM
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Hey, I was just curious as to what "stuff" you're talking about that you have to drive 40-50 miles for. I'm assuming you mean for major concerts or nightlife? Otherwise, I can't think of anything that Sarasota doesn't have nearby.
Anyway, OP, as soon as I read that your wife is 44 and looking for major nightlife, I was going to tell you to cross Sarasota off the list.
That too. Major sporting events are in Tampa. I'm in Punta Gorda. For more stuff gotta drive to Ft. Myers, or if you want a big city gotta drive 100 miles to Tampa.
Moving to SWFL from a major city takes getting adjusted to.
The layout of FL in general is very spread out. It has major cities but very suburban.
Like Missouri for example nearly everyone lives in KC, Stl or Springfield.
Stl is basically the engine of Missouri. If you live in the Stl or KC area everything is within 20 miles.
But living in Ft. Myers, Punta Gorda or Naples is a lot different than Sarasota. Big nearby cities or Miami and Tampa. At least with Sarasota Tampa is just an hour away.
When you really think of it, Sarasota is basically an extension of the Tampa area now.
When I lived in naples from 91 to 2002 Sarasota was called Southwest FL a lot. Now I hardly ever see Sarasota being lumped in with Southwest FL anymore.
Even Venice is hardly ever called Southwest Florida. same with North Port too now. Like our local news stations rarely ever do stories in North Port unless it's really major. I believe North Port now gets Tampa news stations too now?
I guess with all the growth Sarasota had it gravitated towards being lumped in with Tampa more?
11-26-2021, 05:57 AM
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Doral (Miami area) far and away makes more sense than either Sarasota or Naples. Sarasota skews older and while it has some nightlife/things to do pails in comparison to Miami/South Florida. Naples is smaller yet and older too overall. It's a very seasonal town with peak activity Nov-April. It can be very expensive in terms of restaurants or shopping driven by the typically loaded second homeowners there for several months. Doral seems a weird place to land unless basing it on a visit where you hadn't gone anywhere else in the area. Check out places like Weston, Pembroke Pines, Miramar, Coral Gables or South Miami.
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People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)