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Old 11-26-2012, 08:13 AM
 
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I made tiramisu for the first time a few days ago. My husband loves it, but restuarants always seem to add liqueur and he does not touch alcohol. I was shopping for Thanksgiving, saw a package of ladyfingers with a recipe without alcohol, and picked them up on a whim.

The recipe involved creaming egg yolks and sugar together, then mixing in mascarpone and whipped egg whites. Briefly soak the ladyfingers in coffee, layer with the cream, refrigerate. I didn't think much of it until my husband asked if he should preheat the oven for me, but tiramisu is simply assembled, not baked. He was hesitant, borderline grossed-out at first that the dessert had raw eggs in it. (He got over it and had two helpings.) I looked at other tiramisu recipes, and some of them call for the egg cream to be gently cooked, but many others include raw eggs. The tiramisu is tasty, but serving something with raw eggs in it is a first for me. And is that what the liqueur is for? To kill any possible salmonella?

What are your thoughts about eating raw eggs? Glugging down a glass of freshly cracked eggs like Rocky Balboa is pretty gross, but would it bother you to eat them in a dish like tiramisu? Some meringues use raw egg whites, and I believe traditional Caesar dressing uses raw eggs as well.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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I made tiramisu for the first time a few days ago. My husband loves it, but restuarants always seem to add liqueur and he does not touch alcohol. I was shopping for Thanksgiving, saw a package of ladyfingers with a recipe without alcohol, and picked them up on a whim.

The recipe involved creaming egg yolks and sugar together, then mixing in mascarpone and whipped egg whites. Briefly soak the ladyfingers in coffee, layer with the cream, refrigerate. I didn't think much of it until my husband asked if he should preheat the oven for me, but tiramisu is simply assembled, not baked. He was hesitant, borderline grossed-out at first that the dessert had raw eggs in it. (He got over it and had two helpings.) I looked at other tiramisu recipes, and some of them call for the egg cream to be gently cooked, but many others include raw eggs. The tiramisu is tasty, but serving something with raw eggs in it is a first for me. And is that what the liqueur is for? To kill any possible salmonella?

What are your thoughts about eating raw eggs? Glugging down a glass of freshly cracked eggs like Rocky Balboa is pretty gross, but would it bother you to eat them in a dish like tiramisu? Some meringues use raw egg whites, and I believe traditional Caesar dressing uses raw eggs as well.
So does eggnog.....

(Sorry....couldn't resist!)
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:28 AM
 
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LOL, no wonder people have to spike it with booze. My husband's godparents' nog seems to be bourbon with a little whipped cream mixed in. Now I know why ... they're killing the eggs!
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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Eating raw eggs is flirting with disaster. I would not do it.

This author has tracked down what he believes is the original recipe. It actually uses a cooked custard. I do not see whipped egg whites in it. It uses whipped cream.

The Classic Tiramisu (original recipe?) - Test Recipes - Cooking For Engineers

I would not use raw eggs for eggnog or Caesar dressing, either.

The dishes we are talking about are often made for special occasions and served to guests. I would hate to think I made friends ill when the recipe can be made with cooked eggs or pasteurized eggs. What if a guest had a medical condition, unknown to you, that made him more susceptible to infections and your raw eggs landed him in the hospital?
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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Just use pasturized shell eggs.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:49 AM
 
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Yeah, most eggs are pasteurized so you don't have to even think about it. I do have qualms about eating raw eggs, but some of the fittest people out there, like pro boxers, make raw-egg-based shakes to stay in training and you never hear about them keeling over from eggborne illnesses.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:51 AM
 
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Yeah, most eggs are pasteurized so you don't have to even think about it. I do have qualms about eating raw eggs, but some of the fittest people out there, like pro boxers, make raw-egg-based shakes to stay in training and you never hear about them keeling over from eggborne illnesses.

No most shell eggs are not pasturized.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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Eating raw eggs is flirting with disaster. I would not do it.

This author has tracked down what he believes is the original recipe. It actually uses a cooked custard. I do not see whipped egg whites in it. It uses whipped cream.

The Classic Tiramisu (original recipe?) - Test Recipes - Cooking For Engineers

I would not use raw eggs for eggnog or Caesar dressing, either.

The dishes we are talking about are often made for special occasions and served to guests. I would hate to think I made friends ill when the recipe can be made with cooked eggs or pasteurized eggs. What if a guest had a medical condition, unknown to you, that made him more susceptible to infections and your raw eggs landed him in the hospital?
I don't have many guests with mysterious illnesses--I am just concerned about raw eggs in general. Your recipe includes wine, by the way, so I can't make that. I do plan to cook the custard the next time I prepare tiramisu, using a different recipe. The one I used also called for way too much coffee, much more than I needed.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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Here's a dumb question. I've never deliberately bought pasteurized eggs. Are they sold in most grocery stores, or do I have to seek them out at Whole Foods or something?

Our chickens will start laying eggs any day, so I will not have store-bought eggs very much after that, but it's good to know where to get them if I need them.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:22 AM
 
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I don't worry about it. I find very few occasions to eat raw eggs, and I just do it without thinking about it!

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(He got over it and had two helpings.)
Heh.
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