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Old 08-03-2013, 01:45 PM
 
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Once rare stomach illness becoming more widespread


Watch were you eat your salad.

Once rare stomach illness becoming more widespread
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Old 08-03-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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Watch where you eat your salad?

But the cases where the source was identified were Olive Garden and Red Lobster, not exactly dive operations, and those all traced back to a single farm in Mexico that ships millions of pounds of salad greens all over the country, and is considered to have high standards for health and inspection.

So what do you think you can watch? I mean, realistically.
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Old 08-03-2013, 04:36 PM
 
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It's not the food we are eating, (after all, 100 years ago people ate much less "sanitized" food and most of the world currently does, notice there was no epidemic of stomach illness in Mexico, where this lettuce came from ); it's the over-sanitizing of the US and the Western world in general. We are now raising physically weaker and more illness- and allergy-prone people than at any time before - people who have insufficient defenses against what would often be normal bacteria or allergens.

It's called the hygiene hypothesis and the World Health Organization and other health watchdogs have been reporting on this for decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis
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Old 08-03-2013, 05:02 PM
 
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Can it be fatal?

A close friend of ours took another friend out to OG last week and she ate a salad. Right after they left she said that her stomach was hurting. They took her home and the next day she could not move. Her daughter took her to the hospital and she died in a matter of hours.

Reading info. online, it sounds like symptoms don't show until a week, but I guess you never know.
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:14 PM
 
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It's not the food we are eating, (after all, 100 years ago people ate much less "sanitized" food and most of the world currently does, notice there was no epidemic of stomach illness in Mexico, where this lettuce came from ); it's the over-sanitizing of the US and the Western world in general. We are now raising physically weaker and more illness- and allergy-prone people than at any time before - people who have insufficient defenses against what would often be normal bacteria or allergens.

It's called the hygiene hypothesis and the World Health Organization and other health watchdogs have been reporting on this for decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis
I don't think that's the case here.

"Intestinal infections like cyclosporiasis and cryptosporidiosis are among the most common illnesses in the world. More than 2.2 million people worldwide died from illnesses that cause severe diarrhea, making it the sixth leading cause of death in 1998. All but 7,000 of those deaths occurred in low-and middle-income nations."

Cyclosporiasis and Cryptosporidiosis - body, last, How Do People Get Cyclosporiasis and Cryptosporidiosis?
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:15 PM
 
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A close friend of ours took another friend out to OG last week and she ate a salad. Right after they left she said that her stomach was hurting. They took her home and the next day she could not move. Her daughter took her to the hospital and she died in a matter of hours.
Possible, but highly unlikely. The last reported case in this particular epidemic was July 1, and the produce in question has been out of the food distribution chain for weeks.

Sad as your friend's story is, there simply is not enough information given to tell if it was even food related.
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Old 08-04-2013, 08:42 AM
 
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Possible, but highly unlikely. The last reported case in this particular epidemic was July 1, and the produce in question has been out of the food distribution chain for weeks.

Sad as your friend's story is, there simply is not enough information given to tell if it was even food related.
Would you like to go to thoses places and eat there salad and take the chance ?
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Old 08-04-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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Possible, but highly unlikely. The last reported case in this particular epidemic was July 1, and the produce in question has been out of the food distribution chain for weeks.

Sad as your friend's story is, there simply is not enough information given to tell if it was even food related.
It doesn't seem like most people die from it. I would assume that if someone did, they were either very old, a young child, or an adult with a very weak immune system. We still asked her daughter to take a look into it. Something had to be wrong whether it be the food or an unknown illness. It just doesn't sound normal to die like that. Scary to think one day you are having a good time and the next you're hanging on to life by a thread.
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Old 08-04-2013, 11:59 PM
 
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Yes, it does sound as though something more was going on there.
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Old 08-05-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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It doesn't seem like most people die from it. I would assume that if someone did, they were either very old, a young child, or an adult with a very weak immune system. We still asked her daughter to take a look into it. Something had to be wrong whether it be the food or an unknown illness. It just doesn't sound normal to die like that. Scary to think one day you are having a good time and the next you're hanging on to life by a thread.
Agreed, something was wrong, but it would take an autopsy to discern the cause, not a layperson's speculation. People die suddenly of all kinds of causes, at all different ages. Sad as that may seem, it is a natural part of life. And in this case it seems unlikely to have anything to do with the contaminated salad epidemic from June.
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