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Old 03-24-2015, 12:24 PM
 
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No meat in heaven, but SDA's originally had other reasons for rejecting meat. To quote a sample of one of Ellen White's (Prophetess of the SDA Church) writings from Counsels on Diet and Foods:

"Meat should not be placed before our children. Its influence is to excite and strengthen the lower passions, and has a tendency to deaden the moral powers. Grains and fruits prepared free from grease, and in as natural a condition as possible, should be the food for the tables of all who claim to be preparing for translation to heaven." (pp. 63-64)

It doesn't take a Sherlock to figure out what she meant by "lower passions".

DH grew up with this stuff.
Yes, it reads weirdly, but one should consider the general health of the SDA community before writing vegetarianism off as quackery. They are a long-lived bunch.

 
Old 03-24-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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Yes, it reads weirdly, but one should consider the general health of the SDA community before writing vegetarianism off as quackery. They are a long-lived bunch.

The fact that they also don't drink alcohol or caffeinated beverages and don't smoke may have something to do with that longevity. And the fact that they don't eat meat doesn't mean they don't love their starchy carbs, desserts and cheese...ever been to an SDA potluck? Lots of vegetarian casseroles of cut up Worthington veggie meat smothered in mushroom soup and cheese (at least the few I've been to). It isn't always what you'd consider healthy, just because it doesn't have meat in it.

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Old 03-24-2015, 01:26 PM
 
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You make a good about contributing factors. The social support of an active faith community might also have something to do with it. I have good friends who are SDA. Their diet is heavy on whole grains & vegetables and relatively low in dairy. They are also very physically active. I would not suggest to anyone that a diet made up of rich, cheesy casseroles would lead to longevity, any more than I would suggest that a diet of hamburgers would do so. Full disclosure: I eat a 95% vegetarian diet similar to my friends, so I'm pretty much always going to side with the veggies.
 
Old 03-24-2015, 01:34 PM
 
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The fact that they also don't drink alcohol or caffeinated beverages and don't smoke may have something to do with that longevity. And the fact that they don't eat meat doesn't mean they don't love their starchy carbs, desserts and cheese...ever been to an SDA potluck? Lots of vegetarian casseroles of cut up Worthington veggie meat smothered in mushroom soup and cheese (at least the few I've been to). It isn't always what you'd consider healthy, just because it doesn't have meat in it.
This is true, but multiple studies have demonstrated that vegetarians and vegans do in fact have longer lifespans. Depending on the study, the extend is between two and six years.
 
Old 03-24-2015, 03:06 PM
 
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I was at the store when I overheard a male shopper tell his female friend/wife? to put down the tofu as he didn't want to be eating female hormones and turning girly.
I dont eat it...... The last time i heard the word TOFU mentioned was on the movie BUT IM A CHEERLEADER!! (The girl liked TOFU and the parents got concerned cause she liked girls and not guys)
 
Old 03-24-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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I dont eat it...... The last time i heard the word TOFU mentioned was on the movie BUT IM A CHEERLEADER!! (The girl liked TOFU and the parents got concerned cause she liked girls and not guys)
That is literally the last time you heard the word "tofu"?
 
Old 04-28-2015, 06:50 AM
 
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Default Does tofu or soy cause any adverse problems?

We are not male, but a friend of mine has inflammation near her colon, that was not there 5 years ago. The only change of habit, is the consumption of tofu and other soy products. Anyone else ever had that problem?

Seems like moderation in foods and drinks is a big key for health; IMO.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 10:27 AM
 
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We are not male, but a friend of mine has inflammation near her colon, that was not there 5 years ago. The only change of habit, is the consumption of tofu and other soy products. Anyone else ever had that problem?

Seems like moderation in foods and drinks is a big key for health; IMO.
Modern soy is genetically modified, has been since at least the mid 1990s. FDA, EPA, etc let them modify the crops and public hardly knew a thing about it. I certainly don't consume it and I have allergies and sensitivities to other foods as well. In the past I had no issues at all.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 12:18 PM
 
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Modern soy is genetically modified, has been since at least the mid 1990s. FDA, EPA, etc let them modify the crops and public hardly knew a thing about it. I certainly don't consume it and I have allergies and sensitivities to other foods as well. In the past I had no issues at all.
I buy the non-GMO soy that is also organic. Tofu is on today's menu.
 
Old 04-28-2015, 02:50 PM
 
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It does seem a decent thing to eat in moderation. There are a good number of people with food allergies to soy, but I have not had an issue. I have tried to cut down on wheat consumption so I sometimes do add some soy products such as the morning star line of products.
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