02-12-2012, 09:01 PM
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I have job possibility in Bowie Texas. I do not want more than 40-50 mins commute. My husband is in IT - he works from home now. He has plan for continuing study either from UTA or UNTHSC at Forth worth.
We have 3 kids - in middle and elementary school. We want good schools.
What will be best place to live? I am open to suggestions. We will be moving from MA - it will be a big change
02-12-2012, 09:09 PM
Location: Kaufman County, Texas
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Bowie is about 1.5 hours away from the DFW metroplex. Thet is a long way to drive for a daily commute. The closest larger town to DFW is Decatur, and that is still an hour's drive from Fort Worth.
Bowie isn't really known as a growing city. The schools there are rural and not well-regarded. The town does have a Wal-Mart, and there are a few small shops in the downtown area, but you will be driving to DFW or Wichita Falls for anything beyond the basics.
02-12-2012, 09:15 PM
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one possibility to live in decatur. then my commute be 30 mins, but my husband be 1 hour commute. how is decatur school?
another possibly is further south - perhaps "shale creek community" in rhome or other development in haslet. not sure how will be my commute? will it be within 40 minutes?
i will have 4 days workweeks - will get 3 days weekend. can not think if i can handle hour commute for 4 days ....
02-13-2012, 04:51 AM
Location: Kaufman County, Texas
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No, you cannot get from Haslet to Bowie in 40 minutes. Traffic bottlenecks badly on 114 near Harriet Creek Rd by the school. To keep your commute shorter, you will need to be north and west of the Texas Motor Speedway, and ideally, you need to already be in Wise County. The bad thing is that the closer you are to your work, the further your husband will be from school.
I don't know about the rural schools, but
GreatSchools - Public and Private School Ratings, Reviews and Parent Community seems to be recommended a lot here.
02-13-2012, 06:38 AM
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I have job possibility in Bowie Texas. I do not want more than 40-50 mins commute. My husband is in IT - he works from home now. He has plan for continuing study either from UTA or UNTHSC at Forth worth.
We have 3 kids - in middle and elementary school. We want good schools.
What will be best place to live? I am open to suggestions. We will be moving from MA - it will be a big change
The area around the town of Forestburg is very pretty. The terrain is unlike most of North Texas. It's a gem..but land is expensive. It's just East of Bowie
I'm not sure you are going to find stellar schools anywhere around that area...but most are not bad.
02-13-2012, 08:02 AM
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depending on your situation with your husband--won't lot of his classwork be done on-line vs in class? If you check how that works, I think he would really have to be at school only 1 day a week or so from what some people I know who are doing grad work say
You should verify the type of internet connection your husband required to do his work from home and make sure you can get the bandwidth that he needs in rural areas--
some of them are not as up to date with facilities as larger towns area---
and it is possible for your children to be homeschooled if that appeals to you
TX is one of the easiest states to become a home-schooling parent
and there are various types of ways for that to happen
Forestburg is nice town but basically these are VERY rural and you might find it difficult to find a nice rental property--since I assume you don't want to buy at this time
How attractive is this job in Bowie?
if you were looking to be in place with rural atmosphere/small town (with small letters) living then that would be the place to do it
I would go online and look for the local schools and see what type of Internet presence there is--
see if teachers have web pages up
the schools have to follow state curriculum but most of us posting on this forum have no idea what those local schools are really like
sometimes in rural areas you can have some of the same problems that people normally associate with larger ISDs/big districts--
transient low-income families, drug problems, overcrowding, non-English speaking students,
not to mention the general attitude could be xenophobic regarding incomers--
not saying that is how it IS in that area--but small towns can be pretty incestuous in some ways...
02-14-2012, 08:49 AM
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Yes, my husband will probably be able to do most courses online - occasionally need to go to school.
decatur probably is the best choice for commute, but we are not sure how good schools are there and also how well they accept incomers ..... another problem with decatur - not much to do there...
we want to buy house - budget is < 250K.
does decatur have any new community houses?
another option we are thinking:
we like harriet community at justin - it has elementary school inside and park,fitness center. how long will the commute be from harriet community to bowie? will it be within 45mins?
02-14-2012, 09:03 AM
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Google says from town to town is almost an hour--
depending on the traffic it might be more or less--
sometimes in the country you can get behind slow-moving traffic and can't pass
you can check any ISD/school at the TEA web site for its TAKS scores--4 levels--
Exemplary, Recognized, Acceptable, UnAcceptable
they factor test scores on TAKS test, attendance for schools/districts/% of "highly qualified" teaching staff/% of AP students/dropout numbers--
some data can of course be manipulated in schools' favor
easier for smaller school like elementary to earn Exemplary rating than larger schools with more students and students from more diverse backgrounds
look at the region XI TEA website--has map with all ISDs in the region with links to their websites
Schools Information / Public School Websites
you can check schools out on line--
look at local newspapers online and see what stories crop up about the schools
Bowie ISD itself is in District IX--9--Montague county
Justin community is in Northwest ISD which is 5A district
because the state is moving to new evaluation system--no district's ratings will change until 2013 I think when the new system is fully operational
IMO--I was born in TX, lived in Atlanta for few years as child and in Shreveport LA for few years when my children were small
the area NW of FTW where you are considering moving is really desolate since it is still very rural. Towns are separated and small and frankly in that area just think they have less to offer than similar size towns in other parts of TX--the area to me is ugly/boring--but I am sure other people love it
the terrain is grassland (see the map for the Caddo Grasslands National park).
It was grazing land for buffalo for generations before the settlers moved in to use it for cattle
IF you and your children especially are not used to this type of bland, featureless landscape where the wind really does blow 90% of the time, it can look as sterile as the moon --especially because the trees are low growing and scattered, the land is usually dry so ground cover is not that verdant
Lake Bridgeport--because of water has more trees--post oaks mainly--and there is some elevation changes around there but don't know that Bridgeport schools are significantly better than any others
Right now there is lot of gas drilling activity out that way--rentals are hard to come by from what I have read
Personally I would not choose to move into that area--because of its geozone
it is the tail end of the Great Plains unless you are in river bottom land...
I don't like that type of landscape--but neither do I feel that comfortable in the piney woods around Tyler or Houston--and had a little bit of that when we lived in Shreveport...it has pine trees and cotton fields in close proximity
Have you BEEN to this part of TX before? Spent a weekend in area around Bowie for example?
I would think it would be a difficult choice ==longer commute making less time with family to live in area with more amenities vs shorter commute/more family time but fewer amenities like entertainment, shopping, medical resources
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02-14-2012, 12:52 PM
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well, this forum is indeed helpful!!!! tnx a lot!!!!
in dilemma between decatur vs. rhome/haslet/justin.
after reading all the responses, getting 2nd thought of moving there. but job is what brings us there .....
02-14-2012, 02:12 PM
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I guess my comment sounded really depressing--
I meant it more as realistic shout out
and there are people who move out that way because they want to have that privacy/isolation/small town living/schools and they like the open spaces...and they might be willing to drive an hour or more to jobs in FTW or whereever
so like I said what works for one does not work for all...
I have had husband unemployed for long period of time years ago when I was not working and my kids were still in the nest--when his industry was in bad recession--and it was really difficult for him to find work that was half-way comparable to what he lost...We would have considered moving out of state for the right job offer to a lot of places in order to put food on the table and maintain our standard of living
and when my husband was on the upward climb in his profession we moved couple of times before he was laid off
We weren't really happy about Shreveport but we were really glad it was not Corpus
I don't know your motivation in taking this job--not really my business--
but I am trying to say that I understand the motivation behind making a move that might not be perfect...
but if you don't have enough data can you make a valid decision?
Some people are really affected by the "lay of the land" so to speak--
maybe they hate cold weather and dealing with months of snow and short daylight
maybe they hate being in large urban environment where they never get clear shot of the horizon
what works for some people doesn't for others...
I really think you should come out here and see the "lay of the land" for yourself
Have you done that?
Living in Denton and Roanoke or Haslet would be culture shock to some extent but they are close enough to FTW that they are on the outer ring of urban sprawl...
but if you really want to live less than an HOUR of Bowie then your options kind of retract cause I think that those three are probably between hour to 80 min from Bowie depending on traffic and time of day...
Wichita Falls is an hour NW of Bowie and is fairly large town BUT it is that much farther from where your husband would need to go to class...
Google says it is an hour from Decatur to UTA in Arlington--and it will take more like 1.5-2 because of road construction and traffic
UNTHSC would be a little less--but a good hour--
so being in Roanoak or Justin would be better for your husband's commute but that won't happen as often as yours...
Northwest ISD is probably better choice than Decatur ISD--
Roanoke Texas
developing itself as upscale restaurant mecca--has historical downtown area--which I don't think Rhome or Haslet has
makes it more like mini=Grapevine
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Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)