10-21-2012, 06:15 PM
Location: Lake George, CO
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I posted a similar question in the Dallas part, but I wanted to ask this part of the forum since I am looking kind of in both Dallas and Fort Worth... so please bear with me if you have seen me post before!
I am graduating in December and have a job already lined up to start the Monday after I graduate. I will be working off of Mountain Creek on the edge of Grand Prairie and Dallas. I do NOT want to live in that area though.
I want to live in a very very quiet and SAFE suburb area. I can not stand living in noisy places. I am not much on night life or any of that kind of social things..I am an outdoorsy person who wants to have a nice place to come home to. I do not have kids and will not be having kids so I am not worried about schools or being around a bunch of young kids playing in the streets. I will be working rotating shifts so part of the time I will be having to sleep during the day time so that is why I emphasize on quiet..
I am originally from south of Houston where I grew up in a more rural area- so that is what I am used to. I would have to drive anywhere from 50-70 miles on way for work sometimes down there. I do not have to live only 5 minutes away from work.
I have to be at work by 6 am on my day shifts, and on my night shifts I will have to be there by 6 pm, just a heads up for my commuting hours.
I am very big into my hobbies and I have dogs that I show in agility (very competitively). The places that have facilities for my training the dogs are in Burleson, Murphy, Prosper, McKinney, Addison, Wylie, and possibly Midlothian. If I do not get a place super close to any of these facilities..I would need to be able to find a rental with a lot big enough that I can put the equipment in the backyard.
I plan on coming up in the next 2-3 weeks to look at places available for rent that will be good with me, one other person, and having my pets and that will be a great area for me to start getting my feet underneath me. I am trying to pin point the certain areas I would prefer before going to look. I will be making decent money for a person starting out so I am not looking for super cheap, but of course I am looking within somewhat a reasonable price for a rental.
Any suggestions for me? Like I said I am looking at both Dallas and Fort Worth areas... I was considering Murphy and Wylie the most, but was getting bashed for being insane about the commute..so I am trying to consider all of my options...I know the southern side of DFW would be more logical, but I am not seeing as many suburbs that are what I really like as when I stayed in Grand Prairie and Arlington I was just very unhappy with those areas, but let me know what you think!
Thanks a bunch =)
10-21-2012, 08:34 PM
Location: Kaufman County, Texas
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Why did you start another post? We had given you lots of advice in the previous post.
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Those northern suburbs would be the commute from hell to GP. Take them off your list. Midlothian isn't perfect, but it will be a much easier commute.
10-21-2012, 08:41 PM
Location: Lake George, CO
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I was trying to get more options..I have looked into Irving, Euless, and Bedford (lots are not even close to being big enough) and still do not want to go there. I want to stay away from Desoto, Grand Prairie, Arlington, and am trying to get maybe the Fort Worth side of things just to see what they think of the suburbs on that side of things. Midlothian is not offering a whole lot and I am not finding many rentals there..I need OPTIONS that I actually want- not just people telling me I have to live in areas I do not want to even look at. I need SAFE (underline SAFE) and RURAL and QUIET.
I am trying to ask about southern suburbs that are not the ones that people kept pushing no matter what on the other thread.
I got bashed and called INSANE in the other post FOR POSTING WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR which were just suburbs on the north side, and was wanting to start fresh since people were so hell bent on one set of options...sheesh is everyone from DFW so uptight and its their way or the highway?
10-22-2012, 05:03 AM
Location: Kaufman County, Texas
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No, but the problem is that you are looking for things that don't exist here. We don't have big lots in town as you have discovered. And we keep telling you that an hour commute each way to work is going to seriously affect your quality of life and your budget. I don't know why you want to stay away from those areas. Yes, there are bad parts, but there are also good parts.
As you are discovering, rentals here are a really tight market. There are many people moving to the area, and they mostly want to rent first.
If you want rural, look at Cedar Hill, Mansfield, etc. to the south of the DFW metro. Waxahachie and Midlothian are both good options. You might consider contacting a Realtor to help with your search.
10-22-2012, 06:37 AM
Location: Simmering in DFW
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Drive to the other side of Joe Pooole Lake and look around. Some beautiful areas. I just visited a couple -- he's a doctor --- at their lovely home in Cedar Hill. Some of that area is Cedar Hill, some is Dallas, some is Grand Prairie. Also look in Flower Mound if you want North. That is bad traffic, but a bit of a reverse commute. Look in Pantego, tho you probably win't find a rental there.
The way our cities' boundary lines are set, it's impossible to really profile a city in this area. You have to look at the actual communities and ignore the address. Especially as a tenant. The rental market here is tight. You have alreaded stereotyped Grand Prairie and Arlington but in each of those cities you will find communities well above your pay grade. I have long ago learned that you really just have to look. If you become aware of a rental house with a decent yard go look and ignore if it is in GP, ARL, Euless or any of the other places you have nixed. One of my friends lives on an acre lot right off 7th Street in Irving and has long ago gotten over people's reaction. It's an area that has a reputation of being rough, but it's really just modest homes -- some kind of neglected but most very tidy and many of the houses are downright charming. They have lived there 11 years and never have had a single incident of crime. I have always lived in pretty upscale areas and twice have had cars in my driveway broken into. I own five rent houses in very modest "starter" communities -- one that you would turn your nose up at -- each has outdoor motion lights, security window stickers, and locks on gates. Inside granite countertops and all new hard surface flooring. When I advertise my properties for rent I get so many inquiries in the first week, I have to kill my postings on zillow. Last time my one house in the Jackson Terrace section of Irving (which you would never find acceptable) posted, I had 184 inquiries in less than 3 days. It is a 1400 sq ft house with a 1/4 acre backyard with all new kitchen and baths with all hardwood floors in your budget....they signed a 2 year lease and were really wanting a 3 year lease. A "blue collar" neighborhood of 50 year old houses that you would hate.....just telling you all this so you are aware of the tight market.
Since you are willing to drive, just look North if that is what you find appealing. Most of us put such a premium on our off time, we don't want to be spending it driving...especially at the price of fuel and vehicle maintenance.
I am going to DM you some listings for rent that I believe might be a good compromise as far as your budget, neighborhood concerns and reasonable commute to the Mountain Creek area. I love looking thru listings and I know the area well. They might not be active for a December move in but will give you food for thought!
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10-22-2012, 01:29 PM
Location: Lake George, CO
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Got the DM and I appreciate the new places to look at! This will help a lot!
10-23-2012, 03:38 PM
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I got bashed and called INSANE in the other post FOR POSTING WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR which were just suburbs on the north side, and was wanting to start fresh since people were so hell bent on one set of options...sheesh is everyone from DFW so uptight and its their way or the highway?
Folks around here aren't anymore uptight that anywhere else. They're trying to help you. I just read the other post in the Dallas forum and you might be coming off sounding a little like a kid that's not listening to her parents and you're going to do what you want to do anyway.
You don't want a 50 mile 2 hour commute don't live in Wylie or Murphy. Period. You want a suburb/rural area then look south - Waxahachie, Midlothian, Burleson, etc. Suburban - Cedar Hill is nice. Parts of Grand Prairie and a lot of Arlington is nice. There are nice areas in all these towns but you're going to have to get out and look.
You just graduated. You're not entitled to your dream home. You have to work your way up like the rest of us. Sorry for sounding harsh.
10-24-2012, 08:39 PM
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People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)