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YES YES YES, I accidently stumbled on this yesterday. Ancestry lets Google link to a modified person page on your public tree, including your fotos etc, and from there you can access anyone on the tree via this Google/Ancestry link. Try one of my violated people by googling "harry R Rodgers Ancestry Haverhill", and you will be on a modified version of my ancestry page. Ancestry says they now own my fotos and documents, so can't complain. I have now made my trees private, but probably won't affect these cached pages.
I've searched for people on Google and come up with Ancestry tree results, but if I go directly to Ancestry and try to access a person on someone's family tree, it says I have to pay. I'm not sure why.
YES YES YES, I accidently stumbled on this yesterday. Ancestry lets Google link to a modified person page on your public tree, including your fotos etc, and from there you can access anyone on the tree via this Google/Ancestry link. Try one of my violated people by googling "harry R Rodgers Ancestry Haverhill", and you will be on a modified version of my ancestry page. Ancestry says they now own my fotos and documents, so can't complain. I have now made my trees private, but probably won't affect these cached pages.
I only just recently made my tree private and I don't find cached results from my tree when I do the same kind of google search so this is either very recently added or there's some other setting to allow/enable it.
You can use Google to search a specific domain with the following format:
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site:example.com John Smith
That will return all the results for John Smith from example.com
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Originally Posted by STLCardsBlues1989
I've searched for people on Google and come up with Ancestry tree results, but if I go directly to Ancestry and try to access a person on someone's family tree, it says I have to pay. I'm not sure why.
Ancestry.com probably has an internal linking scheme that allows Google to index all the possible names in their database and the page you are seeing. Using the name in the the title alone would produce a result on Google and it probably appears on the page itself. If the name is rare like many would be it could easily surface to the top of the results.
Unlikely but the other thing they might be doing is cloaking which is generally a bad idea because it will get you banned from Googles index. A webmaster can easily detect Googles bot that indexes pages and serve Google real content. A normal user gets completely different page like a subscription page. On the lower right of most results is link for Googles cached version which is what was served to Google, try that. If it differs from the page you get I'd suggest reporting them to Google.
Last edited by thecoalman; 08-24-2011 at 04:37 AM..
Ancestry says they now own my fotos and documents,
I doubt they are claiming that because they can't, copyright needs to be legally transferred. I understand there is some complications where genealogies are concerned but the law is straightforward with original photos and documents. What you have done is granted them what is commonly referred to as soft license to use and display those photos, the limits of what they can do with them will be in the registration agreement. You still retain full copyright.
Note that any original work like a photo is copyrighted by the author is automatically copyrighted by the author and it runs a considerable length of time. It's the author's lifetime plus 70 to 125 years depending on a few factors. After the authors death the copyright is automatically transferred to the heirs.
I doubt they are claiming that because they can't, copyright needs to be legally transferred. I understand there is some complications where genealogies are concerned but the law is straightforward with original photos and documents. What you have done is granted them what is commonly referred to as soft license to use and display those photos, the limits of what they can do with them will be in the registration agreement. You still retain full copyright.
Note that any original work like a photo is copyrighted by the author is automatically copyrighted by the author and it runs a considerable length of time. It's the author's lifetime plus 70 to 125 years depending on a few factors. After the authors death the copyright is automatically transferred to the heirs.
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