Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Genealogy
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 02-18-2015, 07:23 PM
 
166 posts, read 153,532 times
Reputation: 68

Advertisements

This man is a ghost. His name is Benjamin Harrison Jeffries b.1888 in Marshall, Fauquier County, VA d. 1955 in Marshall. His wife's name was Bertha Dudley b.1891 in Marshall, VA. I've found everything on him except the 1900 Census. I've exhausted all of my resources, no one was able to find anything.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 02-19-2015, 12:37 AM
 
Location: NJ
1,252 posts, read 3,485,277 times
Reputation: 1024
This may or may not be the record, but it is from the 1900 census for a Harris Jeffries born in 1888.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMFR-L5M
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-19-2015, 12:47 AM
 
Location: 2016 Clown Car...fka: Wisconsin
738 posts, read 999,736 times
Reputation: 1207
Yep...this is a tough one for sure. Theoretically, he should reside in Fauquier Co., VA in the 1900 census, but there are no guarantees that the family actually lived there during that time.

So there are a couple of things you may be able to do:
1) Loosen your parameters and think more broadly. Instead of sticking to 'Benjamin' as a first name, he may have been known to his family as Harrison or even Harry.
2) You note that he was born in 1888, while his WW1 and WW11 draft registration indicate a birth date of May 1889/90. You could search using wildcards (*) and just look for someone with the first name as Ben* or Har* and last name of Jeff* born May 1889/90 in Virginia.
3) You could hand search the entire Fauquier Co., VA census for 1900...I know...I know...
4) I did a cursory glance of the those names in just Fauquier Co., VA and came up empty so looks like a hand search may yield better results.
5) I'm assuming you don't know who his parents were, but if you can obtain a copy of Ben and Bertha's marriage return, it may have that information on it since they were married after 1900. Once you have their names, you could try to locate them using the names of his siblings or parents.

Sorry I don't have many more suggestions, but there is also the possibility that they were missed. I was researching for a friend and found the family living in the same place in the 1850, 1860 and 1880 census years, but even a hand search didn't turn them up. My guess is that they were missed.

I wish you the very best of luck!

RVcook
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-19-2015, 10:14 AM
 
166 posts, read 153,532 times
Reputation: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by wannabee View Post
This may or may not be the record, but it is from the 1900 census for a Harris Jeffries born in 1888.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MMFR-L5M

Thank you for helping! However, I don't think he was black.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-19-2015, 03:32 PM
 
9,238 posts, read 22,899,573 times
Reputation: 22699
Also, it's possible that he just didn't get enumerated in the 1900 census. I've have a few cases like that. In fact, my one set of grandparents didn't get into the 1940 census, but I'm 100% certain of where they lived at the time, and I found their neighbors on either side listed. They weren't home at the time, and I guess a lazy census taker just didn't go back.

So your guy isn't really a ghost. You evidently have lots of info on him, just not a record of him in the 1900 census.

If he was 12 at the time, he could have been sent out to live and work at a nearby farm. I've had lots of ancestors that farmed out the boys over 10 years old to nearby farms, where they lived and worked as farmhands. In some cases, both the parents AND the farmer/landlord listed the kid, so he's in the census twice. In other cases, neither party listed the kid, probably thinking that the other did so.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-19-2015, 03:49 PM
 
166 posts, read 153,532 times
Reputation: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by TracySam View Post
Also, it's possible that he just didn't get enumerated in the 1900 census. I've have a few cases like that. In fact, my one set of grandparents didn't get into the 1940 census, but I'm 100% certain of where they lived at the time, and I found their neighbors on either side listed. They weren't home at the time, and I guess a lazy census taker just didn't go back.

So your guy isn't really a ghost. You evidently have lots of info on him, just not a record of him in the 1900 census.

If he was 12 at the time, he could have been sent out to live and work at a nearby farm. I've had lots of ancestors that farmed out the boys over 10 years old to nearby farms, where they lived and worked as farmhands. In some cases, both the parents AND the farmer/landlord listed the kid, so he's in the census twice. In other cases, neither party listed the kid, probably thinking that the other did so.
So how would I find him? I can't find him as a child.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-19-2015, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
37,104 posts, read 41,267,704 times
Reputation: 45146
Quote:
Originally Posted by dylanfurr246 View Post
So how would I find him? I can't find him as a child.
Do you have an obituary? If you know when and where he died, try a local newspaper for that area. The local library might have it.

A death certificate might have place of birth. If you are not finding him where you think he ought to be, maybe he was born and lived somewhere else before Marshall.

A manual search of the census, as suggested above, might find him, though it's a pain in the neck to do it. Start with where he was in 1910 and search the same part of the county first. RVcook suggested alternate ways to search for different names, but the surname may be misspelled in the index. If it's really mangled, the search function may have a hard time finding it. Ask me how I know!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-19-2015, 10:09 PM
 
147 posts, read 178,177 times
Reputation: 297
It would help us a bit knowing exactly what you're looking for, does "I've found everything on him" mean you know all about him except that one elusive census or do you need his parents, grandparents, etc.

If you're looking for his family, it helps to broaden your search. I don't mean by terms, I mean by looking for other family members and whose living with them.

Like he's here with his grandparents in 1910 as a young married man with his wife and children:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPPN-4MJ

So with that I found an obit of his great grandfather:

http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/taz...s/dudley01.txt

Which led to the marriage record of his grandparents:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XR3M-149

Here's his Shuffleberger family (through Elias and Nancy) with a name like that, pretty unique and easy to search for.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....flebarger2.htm

That took me about 10 minutes.

If you're just looking for the Census record, considering he was living with his grandmother in 1910, it wouldn't hurt to look through that branch of the family and where they were living. Chances are people are enumerated at home, but you just don't know where they're going to end up. I have one ancestor whose brother was enumerated twice one year because he was away on business.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-19-2015, 11:34 PM
 
166 posts, read 153,532 times
Reputation: 68
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinska View Post
It would help us a bit knowing exactly what you're looking for, does "I've found everything on him" mean you know all about him except that one elusive census or do you need his parents, grandparents, etc.

If you're looking for his family, it helps to broaden your search. I don't mean by terms, I mean by looking for other family members and whose living with them.

Like he's here with his grandparents in 1910 as a young married man with his wife and children:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MPPN-4MJ

So with that I found an obit of his great grandfather:

http://files.usgwarchives.net/va/taz...s/dudley01.txt

Which led to the marriage record of his grandparents:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XR3M-149

Here's his Shuffleberger family (through Elias and Nancy) with a name like that, pretty unique and easy to search for.

Descendants of John Shufflebarger

That took me about 10 minutes.

If you're just looking for the Census record, considering he was living with his grandmother in 1910, it wouldn't hurt to look through that branch of the family and where they were living. Chances are people are enumerated at home, but you just don't know where they're going to end up. I have one ancestor whose brother was enumerated twice one year because he was away on business.
I thank you for your help but except for the 1910 census, that's not my family. Jennie C. was Bertha's grandmother, not Ben's. I should've made that more clear. I'm just looking for his parents and that 1900 Census.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 02-19-2015, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
37,104 posts, read 41,267,704 times
Reputation: 45146
See if there is a birth record for him:

Circuit Court Clerk

"Birth register for births 1853 to 1896"

May have marriage record, too. That might have a minister's name if married in a church. Church records might have baptism or christening records.

Death certificate:

Virginia Death Records | Virginia Vital Records

The death certificate will very likely give you the names of his parents. That may help you find the census record.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Genealogy
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:10 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top