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Old 04-19-2021, 02:05 PM
 
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I do a lot of work on Find A Grave setting up and linking my extended family as well as doing volunteer photos for others. Six generations of my family are buried in the same cemetery in RI including three sets of great great grandparents. Unfortunately, the actual location of one set is unknown. My mother had told stories of visiting it as a child and the marker being damaged back then in the 1930's. It is believed that the marker was eventually removed and their final resting place has open grass above it. The cemetery office cannot even help as there was an office fire in the 1920's which destroyed all their records up until then.


Many markers back in the late 1800's and early 1900's in New England were made of limestone which does not fare well with the local weather. Inscriptions have become unreadable and many markers have cracked and often removed which fits what you had found. I however was recently heartened to see someone taking photo's of one set of great great grandparents that had come over from Ireland. Their white limestone obelisk style marker is still there and can still be read up real close. The person taking photos had no family connection and was working as a volunteer for the RI Historical Society for a project to preserve the history of these old markers before they are forever lost. This person was using a full length mirror to better help capture the engraving text.

Even modern.. Between 5 and 10% of people who pass away AND ARE BURIED, never get a marker. Or at least nothing more than the temporary funeral home markers.



It's sad, but it happens.. I've run across large numbers of markers where a marker was placed, and a DOD for the surviving spouse was never put in.. Or where a surviving spouse never got a marker after they passed (Last surviving member of family).. And a number of times where like the husband dies, and they don't place a marker at all until the spouse dies.


But the cemetery folks I've spoken with all tend to put the "No marker" at between the 5 and 10% range and that seems to hold up with what I've seen documenting cemeteries.
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Old 04-24-2021, 11:43 AM
 
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A few examples. these are just 2 of the graves that I treated with D2 about 2 weeks ago.. You can see the improvement already


https://ibb.co/St4tvzD


https://ibb.co/LYNGwD8


https://ibb.co/jHcLvRt


https://ibb.co/6D0xs8f
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Old 04-24-2021, 01:22 PM
 
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A bit OT, but I've always wondered what ultimately happens to cemeteries. I mean, are they owned forever? I guess I don't know-- are they owned by a city or municipality, or a private company? If the latter, what if the company goes under or just doesn't want to own a cemetery anymore?
Each state is different. The link below outlines the laws in VA.

https://www.fauquiercounty.gov/home/...ocument?id=138
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Old 04-26-2021, 06:07 AM
 
Location: NJ
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A few examples. these are just 2 of the graves that I treated with D2 about 2 weeks ago.. You can see the improvement already


https://ibb.co/St4tvzD


https://ibb.co/LYNGwD8


https://ibb.co/jHcLvRt


https://ibb.co/6D0xs8f

They look great! Your relatives would be very proud of the work you're doing
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Old 04-26-2021, 01:23 PM
 
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Just be careful when cleaning graves and check with local authorities.

https://www.boston25news.com/news/tr...IMKIKKBVK2CMY/



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A bit OT, but I've always wondered what ultimately happens to cemeteries. I mean, are they owned forever? I guess I don't know-- are they owned by a city or municipality, or a private company? If the latter, what if the company goes under or just doesn't want to own a cemetery anymore?

They are usually owned by someone, but being maintained is a different story. State laws all differ.

I know my city has over 300 cemeteries, with many being 2-person plots that used to be part of a homestead. Land gets sold but the cemetery remains. There's a master list maintained by the historical society that shows their location.

I checked a few out. You pull to the side of the road and there's a small wooded area. You just walk into the woods, and eventually you see a headstone sticking out of the ground. Usually never a fence, and it's always overgrown. It's essentially abandoned.

Not all like this. Some do have a fence, and are on a cordoned off area of a property. There's one in the corner of a Dunkin Donuts where i live. It's fenced off with 2 gravestones from the mid 1800's in it. Where i live, there are dozens of abandoned cemeteries from the 1700's and 1800's just on the side of a road in a small plot 10x10 or so. I highly doubt there is someone caring for these other than volunteers every decade or so.
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Old 04-29-2021, 08:59 AM
 
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Just be careful when cleaning graves and check with local authorities.

https://www.boston25news.com/news/tr...IMKIKKBVK2CMY/

Thankfully the OP checked what products to use before they started cleaning them. Apparently the lady in your article didn't.


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The woman, whose name was not released, was cleaning gravestones at All Hallows Episcopal Church Cemetery to be able to document them for the Billion Graves project, the Capital Gazette reported.

The amateur genealogist scrubbed about 200 grave markers, some of which date back to the 19th century.

But her cleaning technique left the monuments with stripes that could cost the church $10,000 to fix.
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Old 04-29-2021, 03:52 PM
 
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Thankfully the OP checked what products to use before they started cleaning them. Apparently the lady in your article didn't.

Well, and I hired professionals for the stuff that I have no business at all doing. Like resetting the fallen markers.



Know your role.


But, it is surprising how a stone that I didn't even think was marble comes back to be as white as the day it was made after a little time.
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Old Today, 05:25 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Well, and I hired professionals for the stuff that I have no business at all doing. Like resetting the fallen markers.



Know your role.


But, it is surprising how a stone that I didn't even think was marble comes back to be as white as the day it was made after a little time.
I got an email from billion graves that gives headstone cleaning tips. You're using the gold standard to clean the stones with.

The article has photos so people can see what can be achieved by cleaning the stone if it is cleanable. Some of them are amazing, they were black from the elements, but came clean.

Maybe your thread and the tips in the blog will motivate others to clean headstones.


GRAVESTONE CLEANING TIPS FROM BILLIONGRAVES
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Old Today, 09:53 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Once upon a time, probably in 1968 or 1969, me and about six of my college buddies (a few being under age) would head to the oldest cemetery in the old town at night and sit under a big old tree and share a couple six packs discussing the meaning of life. Where better? It was a river town with some dimpled unmarked graves from a steamboat explosion in the 1840s and a big marker for the town founder (from the late 1700s) and hundreds somewhere in between. The founder's multi-great-grandson was one of the group and had the same name. We started paying attention and made a couple rubbings on paper of a Revolutionary War soldier and a particularly sad case of a "spinster". Once we had the rubbings on the wall back in our dorm, so many weird and unexplained things started happening that we freaked out. One guy said he saw the woman in his room one night. Things moved around and fell off desks and just odd stuff happened. Of course (this being the '60s) we figured we had unleashed some spirit energy and quickly disposed of the offending rubbings. The weirdness stopped. We learned a lesson but never found the meaning of life.
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