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Old 09-20-2010, 05:17 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Those are stereotypes that don't apply to every single small town.

I wouldn't call Brookshire, Texas "safe" and "quiet".
So don't move to Brookshire, TX; pick another one of the thousands across the Country.

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I wouldn't call Smyrna, NY "clean" or a "great place to raise a family".
Again, then pick another town several miles away, most are clean and nice places to raise a family around that area.

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City folks realize that there's MORE to offer in cities. More jobs, more stores, more places to go.
More pollution, more traffic, more crowds, more violent crime, more gangs, more rush to do everything.

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Sorry, but I just don't see the appeal.
I don't see the appeal of big cities either.

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Ask most 20 somethings where they would like to live and guess what answer you'll get....
Most 20 somethings don't know what they are going to do when they grow up yet and get out in the real World, not a very good demographic to show why anyplace is the best to live.
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:10 AM
 
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Well I didn't mention Norwich's diversity (or lack there of) because that wasn't as big a deal to me as it would for others. Still, just being in a place where there were more country stations than anything just ain't as attractive to me....
I got ya'...I thought they got some stations from Binghamton or Utica-Rome too.
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Old 09-20-2010, 07:54 PM
 
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On the stereotypes the OP mentions there are a few fairly liberal small/smallish towns. Looking up some possibilities on that.

Several small towns in Vermont look quite liberal or Left-leaning. Johnson has some kind of organic farming deal or something and I think I read Moretown has a socialist on the town council.

York, Maine opposed a referendum against same-sex marriage and favored one that would allow medical marijuana. It's also very historic.

- Bangor Daily News (http://www.bangordailynews.com/electionresults.html - broken link)

It seems like Oberlin, Ohio is fairly liberal and somewhat smallish.
Ever been to Northern MN? Go to Hibbing, Virginia or Eveleth. They have absolutely no use for Republicans or gays. How's that for bustin' your stereotype?
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:23 PM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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Well I was going liberal/conservative more than Democratic/Republican there. Obviously there are small towns that are conservative Democrat, particularly in the Midwest and South I think. The town I live in is largely Democratic, but tends to be Pro-Life and Anti-Gay. It's also a tinge racist, but I don't see that as necessarily conservative.
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:45 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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So don't move to Brookshire, TX; pick another one of the thousands across the Country.


Again, then pick another town several miles away, most are clean and nice places to raise a family around that area.


More pollution, more traffic, more crowds, more violent crime, more gangs, more rush to do everything.


I don't see the appeal of big cities either.


Most 20 somethings don't know what they are going to do when they grow up yet and get out in the real World, not a very good demographic to show why anyplace is the best to live.

Apparently you didn't get ANY point of my last post so let me break it down.

I used those examples to show you that not ALL small towns are as safe and inviting as some portray them to be. There are small towns and smaller suburban areas that are FAR WORSE than any big city, no matter what the issue. Again, don't stereotype.

And if staying in a small town is good for you, that's fine. You stay there.

I go to school in a small town, I have family members in small towns, I've been to enough small towns across this country to know that THIS 20-something doesn't want anything to do with ANY small town. Period.
And you can mention gangs and crime and pollution and traffic all ya want... there's just not much anyone can do to convince me to move to any place with 5,000 people. Hell, anything under 300,000 is too small for me.
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:50 AM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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Apparently you didn't get ANY point of my last post so let me break it down.

I used those examples to show you that not ALL small towns are as safe and inviting as some portray them to be. There are small towns and smaller suburban areas that are FAR WORSE than any big city, no matter what the issue. Again, don't stereotype.

And if staying in a small town is good for you, that's fine. You stay there.

I go to school in a small town, I have family members in small towns, I've been to enough small towns across this country to know that THIS 20-something doesn't want anything to do with ANY small town. Period.
And you can mention gangs and crime and pollution and traffic all ya want... there's just not much anyone can do to convince me to move to any place with 5,000 people. Hell, anything under 300,000 is too small for me.
That's fine for you, but you kind of did seem to be judging those with other preference. Maybe we misconstrued you though.

Although I will say you or I don't know how our situations may change. Maybe when I'm in my forties I'll be living in Staten Island and loving it. Or maybe when you're in your forties you'll be living in a micropolitan area (main city under 50,000) and loving that. Probably unlikely, but who knows?
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Old 09-21-2010, 07:11 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Apparently you didn't get ANY point of my last post so let me break it down.
Apparently I DID get all your points so let me break it down for YOU. Try to follow along, I know your young and think you know everything already, but try to keep up.

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I used those examples to show you that not ALL small towns are as safe and inviting as some portray them to be. There are small towns and smaller suburban areas that are FAR WORSE than any big city, no matter what the issue. Again, don't stereotype.
Nobody else was saying they all are safe and inviting either. You assumed, which will generally be wrong. To cherry pick a couple small towns and try to make your point would be like saying ALL big cities are like either Detroit or NYC... which would be wrong in either case.

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And if staying in a small town is good for you, that's fine. You stay there.
Plan on it, never said I wanted to live in a big city again. Did that for long enough already.

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I go to school in a small town, I have family members in small towns, I've been to enough small towns across this country to know that THIS 20-something doesn't want anything to do with ANY small town. Period.
And you can mention gangs and crime and pollution and traffic all ya want... there's just not much anyone can do to convince me to move to any place with 5,000 people. Hell, anything under 300,000 is too small for me.
Again, this isn't about YOU, this is a general discussion about why small towns are not well liked by those in large cities. Nobody is trying to convince you to move to a small town. I was just showing that the points you brought up are NOT representative of all small towns. You are assuming again that the vast majority of 20 somethings share YOUR point of view. If it is your view, then state it as such and not issue a blanket statement that may or may not be true.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:50 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Apparently I DID get all your points so let me break it down for YOU. Try to follow along, I know your young and think you know everything already, but try to keep up.


Nobody else was saying they all are safe and inviting either. You assumed, which will generally be wrong. To cherry pick a couple small towns and try to make your point would be like saying ALL big cities are like either Detroit or NYC... which would be wrong in either case.


Plan on it, never said I wanted to live in a big city again. Did that for long enough already.


Again, this isn't about YOU, this is a general discussion about why small towns are not well liked by those in large cities. Nobody is trying to convince you to move to a small town. I was just showing that the points you brought up are NOT representative of all small towns. You are assuming again that the vast majority of 20 somethings share YOUR point of view. If it is your view, then state it as such and not issue a blanket statement that may or may not be true.


LOL.... wow dude.

Ok, first off, don't think that I'm some "dumb young know-it-all". Just because I was born AFTER Regan became president, doesn't mean that I'm some little jackass.

Second, I'm NOT making it about me. I just used myself as an example to show that youths don't want to be in places where opportunites are limited. Small towns don't exactly have the same kind of draw for us.

Third, I did NOT say ALL small towns are like Brookshire and Smyrna. I was just using them as examples because there's this assumption from people that ALL small towns are just quiet, cozy, loveable places. And that's just not true. Also, that was a reply to someone else's previous post.

Fourth, when I said "If you want to live in a small town, good for you. Stay there", I was speaking in general. To everyone who keeps trashing big cities. Also, looking at past topics and posts, I think it's fair to voice my opinion on why I'd never want to live in small towns, just like others are saying they'd never want to be in big cities.

And finally, to that last statement of yours, I think I DO know what I'm talking about when I say most young people don't want to be in small towns. Because the only people under the age of 50 that I've ever met that actually said they'd rather live in small towns are people that have either lived there all their lives or have a phobia about being in larger places. Even so, it hasn't been that many. So I wouldn't really call it that much of a blanket statement. . . .
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Old 09-21-2010, 12:54 PM
 
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I dislike small towns its boring and too quiet I live in a small town 29k people and its boring here. I went to nyc a few times and it was amazing it felt like i was in another world. I love the noise and craziness how everything is close i know tons of 20 year old's myself included are itching to get out of here to a bigger city.
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Old 09-21-2010, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Columbia Heights, D.C.
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Smalls towns suck, only thing to do is smoke weed all day.
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