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View Poll Results: Which is the real Soul and Sound of the South?
Blues 7 28.00%
Classic Country 7 28.00%
Mo-Town 0 0%
Southern Rock 11 44.00%
Voters: 25. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-03-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Southeast Arizona
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I would say Classic Country comes first, because things like the Grand Ole Opry and the Louisiana Hayride came first, blues second and southern rock at third. Mo-Town I wouldn't count.

But no bluegrass? No gospel?
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Old 10-03-2010, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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I really don't like voting for just one, but I'll say classic country music. When I think of the South, I think country and bluegrass. Jazz is popular in NYC and Chicago. The blues really came out of Chicago.
We are talking about where it was birthed and the blues did not start out of Chicago at all.
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Old 10-03-2010, 01:13 PM
 
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Motown is from Michigan. Motown = Detroit. Midwestern. I know you say it has "Southern roots," but it came out of the Midwest, not the South.

I really don't like voting for just one, but I'll say classic country music. When I think of the South, I think country and bluegrass. Jazz is popular in NYC and Chicago. The blues really came out of Chicago.
the blues did NOT, i repeat NOT, come out of chicago. at all. the blues were in the mississippi delta for years, and was transplanted to chicago (although many of the arists continued to return to MS and the music remained popular down there as always and lived on in juke joints). please read up on music history. all "chicago blues" was was black mississippi music being popularized into the north.

howlin' wolf, muddy waters, willie dixon, bo diddle, jimmy reed, ALL were born in mississippi, raised there, and learned their music there. chicago blues was simply music that mississippians brought with them from mississippi to chicago. and that is just electric blues, which came later. the earlier guys like skip james, booker white, and of course the famous robert johnson never took their blues north. blues originated in the delta of mississippi.

but i do agree that "bluegrass" or "mountain folk music" should have been included, as that was the origin of classic country music. in fact, the further you go back the more white and black music sound alike in the south.

take dock boggs for example, he sounds more "blues" than mississippi john hurt did. "piedmont blues" often sounds a lot like country or folk music.

to me, the "soul" of southern music breaks down to both mountain folk/old-time music and black gospel, so a combination of those two would be my vote if possible. here are examples:
mountain folk---------------------------------------------------------------black gospel

but pretty much all american music, and near all popular music in the world today is tied to the american south. blues, jazz, country, rock, bluegrass, r and b, soul, funk all originated in the south. so really the south's music is the "soul and sound" of america's music in general.
mississippi got it right:

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Old 10-03-2010, 01:23 PM
 
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Motown is from Michigan. Motown = Detroit. Midwestern. I know you say it has "Southern roots," but it came out of the Midwest, not the South.

I really don't like voting for just one, but I'll say classic country music. When I think of the South, I think country and bluegrass. Jazz is popular in NYC and Chicago. The blues really came out of Chicago.
Pleeeze tell me you are mis-typing or joking, Kazoo! LOL I mean, c'mon, it is about the most established fact in the world that the "Blues" originated in the Mississippi delta area.

Now, I will agree with you (and others) that Mo-Town should not have been a choice. My mistake on that one for sure. While it has definite Southern roots, it is at least equally Midwestern. If a Mod will help me, I would like to replace the MO-Town option with "Southern Gospel" and/or "Dixieland Jazz."

But back to the point, sorry to be so blunt, but the idea that Blues came out of Chicago is just...uhhhhh?
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Old 10-03-2010, 03:55 PM
 
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Just like a cop...where is a Mod when you need one?

GOTTA re-vamp the options to eliminate MO-Town (or maybe just replace it with "Soul"), and insert Southern Gospel, Blue-Grass, and Dixieland Jazz! And "Other" for any other that I apparently missed.

Aww, hell, I will do it myself!
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:12 PM
 
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I know the blues originated in the South! However, the music form was popularized in Chicago. It's at least as Midwestern as it is Southern.

The blues is a major artifact of Chicago's black culture (no racism intended). Most blacks in Chicago came from Mississippi, so there is a connection.
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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I know the blues originated in the South! However, the music form was popularized in Chicago. It's at least as Midwestern as it is Southern.

The blues is a major artifact of Chicago's black culture (no racism intended). Most blacks in Chicago came from Mississippi, so there is a connection.
We wouldn't deny that. But the blues is a Southern born genre that just simply moved to the Midwest mostly during the great migration when Black Mississippians moved there. But to say that blues really came out of Chicago is false anyway you say it.
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Old 10-03-2010, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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We wouldn't deny that. But the blues is a Southern born genre that just simply moved to the Midwest mostly during the great migration when Black Mississippians moved there. But to say that blues really came out of Chicago is false anyway you say it.
Good Lord, I just cant believe kazoo is minimalizing the blues coming out of the South.
Highway 61?
The crossroads?????
A Short History of the Blues
and this.....
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=18724

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Old 10-08-2010, 12:21 PM
 
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skip james


This one is what I call "being true to the original".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpaaR4HC028
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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I know the blues originated in the South! However, the music form was popularized in Chicago. It's at least as Midwestern as it is Southern.

The blues is a major artifact of Chicago's black culture (no racism intended). Most blacks in Chicago came from Mississippi, so there is a connection.
The blues is by far more southern than midwestern. It would be silly to deny that.
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