Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
This is true, but unlike those states, Texas has the demographics, dialect, culture, agriculture, not to mention history to be able to classify it as southern. Dallas, Houston, and Austin have a lot more in common with Atlanta than with Albuquerque and Phoenix.
I agree but what about West Texas especially El Paso. It seems to be more in sync with New Mexico and Arizona.
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
2,709 posts, read 5,098,363 times
Reputation: 1028
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darbro
I agree but what about West Texas especially El Paso. It seems to be more in sync with New Mexico and Arizona.
El Paso maybe...most of Texas leans more towards the south. In general, it makes far more sense to group Texas in with the south than the Southwest. Not all state lines are perfect. Even Amarillo I would say feels and acts a lot more like Little Rock than Albuquerque.
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
2,709 posts, read 5,098,363 times
Reputation: 1028
Quote:
Originally Posted by ram2
This is correct. The Cajuns are related to the French Canadians.
The Cajuns and Creoles both are primarily responsible for the large Catholic population in Louisiana. I guarantee that without them that Louisiana would be strictly Bible Belt.
El Paso maybe...most of Texas leans more towards the south. In general, it makes far more sense to group Texas in with the south than the Southwest. Not all state lines are perfect. Even Amarillo I would say feels and acts a lot more like Little Rock than Albuquerque.
Austin has more in common with Austin than it does with Atlanta or Albuquerque/Phoenix/Los Angeles. Dallas has a different kind of Southern than it does with Atlanta and the rest of the South. Houston seems to be the most distinct and different from the rest of the Texas cities, and yet even Houston has a different vibe than the rest of the South also along with a different vibe than SA/Austin/Dallas/El Paso. Texas is not easily pinned.
The Cajuns and Creoles both are primarily responsible for the large Catholic population in Louisiana. I guarantee that without them that Louisiana would be strictly Bible Belt.
That is not true. Louisiana also has a good sized Italian, Irish, Black Catholic, German, and other groups which is mostly due to immigration through the port of New Orleans.
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
2,709 posts, read 5,098,363 times
Reputation: 1028
Quote:
Originally Posted by polo89
Austin has more in common with Austin than it does with Atlanta or Albuquerque/Phoenix/Los Angeles. Dallas has a different kind of Southern than it does with Atlanta and the rest of the South. Houston seems to be the most distinct and different from the rest of the Texas cities, and yet even Houston has a different vibe than the rest of the South also along with a different vibe than SA/Austin/Dallas/El Paso. Texas is not easily pinned.
I can't say I agree with this, because you're forgetting about Oklahoma. Texas and Oklahoma make up what is known as the "Western South"....the extreme western parts I agree are more in line with the southwest, but even then, eastern New Mexico has strong southern influences. San Antonio I agree is hard to classify as the south...in fact, I never thought of that city as definitively either one. But having visited Austin, I can positively testify that it is southern. Culturally and in terms of speech patterns, as well as economically, it is more reflective of the New South than of the southwest. Dallas and Houston are the same thing. They are southern Plains states which are not definitively southern but much more southern than southwestern. In fact, an overwhelming majority of Texans consider themselves southern. Not to mention, the state was one of the most important ones in the confederacy, and was unconditional in its support.
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
2,709 posts, read 5,098,363 times
Reputation: 1028
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo_1
That is not true. Louisiana also has a good sized Italian, Irish, Black Catholic, German, and other groups which is mostly due to immigration through the port of New Orleans.
Not likely good-sized enough to overwhelm the Baptists without the French, Cajun and Creole elements, which are the primary reason why it's so Catholic to begin with. You misinterpreted me. When i say part of the bible belt, I mean that Baptists would very likely be a majority in most of the counties, not that Catholicism wouldn't exist. The only parts of Louisiana that identify as Catholic are the southernmost portions, where the French influence is the strongest. Louisiana is a unique case, but without the overwhelming French elements, there is no way in hell southern Louisiana would be predominantly Catholic. especially considering that no other part of the deep south sports New Orleans' characteristics. Texas likely would be a similar case without the Hispanic influences.
I can't say I agree with this, because you're forgetting about Oklahoma. Texas and Oklahoma make up what is known as the "Western South"....the extreme western parts I agree are more in line with the southwest, but even then, eastern New Mexico has strong southern influences. San Antonio I agree is hard to classify as the south...in fact, I never thought of that city as definitively either one. But having visited Austin, I can positively testify that it is southern. Culturally and in terms of speech patterns, as well as economically, it is more reflective of the New South than of the southwest. Dallas and Houston are the same thing. They are southern Plains states which are not definitively southern but much more southern than southwestern. In fact, an overwhelming majority of Texans consider themselves southern. Not to mention, the state was one of the most important ones in the confederacy, and was unconditional in its support.
I can agree to an extent but to say Austin is more like Atlanta than Albuqeurque or however you spell it today is not really true anymore. Like I told chiatldal, you will come across many born and bred Austinites that do not believe they are Southern. This is not to say Austin has much in common with any town in New Mexico either. But like Atlanta? Hard pressed.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
