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Old 08-29-2007, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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ENTIRLEY IN BIBLE BELT:
Virginia
Kentucky
North Carolina
South Carolina
Georgia
Alabama
Mississippi
Arkansas
Missouri
Tennesee
Oklahoma
Kansas
Nebraska
South Dakota
North Dakota

PARTIALLY IN BIBLE BELT:
Maryland (Southern and Eastern MD only)
Delaware (South of I-95)
West Virginia (Not the northern panhandle)
Ohio (Southern Areas)
Indiana (Southern areas)
Illinois (Southern areas)
Iowa (Southern and Western areas)
Florida (Not South of Orlando)
Texas (West Texas not included)
Most people would agree that the Dakotas and Nebraska are not really in the Bible Belt. They are too far north to even qualify. Sure those states may be conservative politically, but I would not place them in the Bible Belt.
The southern Midwest in Missouri would be the furthest northern extent of the Bible Belt at about 40N latitude in N Missouri.
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Old 08-29-2007, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Most people would agree that the Dakotas and Nebraska are not really in the Bible Belt. They are too far north to even qualify. Sure those states may be conservative politically, but I would not place them in the Bible Belt.
The southern Midwest in Missouri would be the furthest northern extent of the Bible Belt at about 40N latitude in N Missouri.
I concur with that.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say: (they're not always totally accurate, but close enough)

Bible Belt
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The approximate extent of the Bible Belt, indicated in red
The approximate extent of the Bible Belt, indicated in red

The Bible Belt is an informal term for an area of the United States of America in which socially conservative Christian Evangelical Protestantism is a dominant part of the culture. The term "Bible Belt" was reputedly coined by the American journalist and social commentator H.L. Mencken in the early 1920s. [1]

In particular, in the United States it is an idiom[2] for the region where the Southern Baptist Convention denomination is strongest (though many other denominations, such as the Church of Christ and Assemblies of God can be found there as well), usually meaning the South and nearby areas.

Much of the Bible Belt consists of the Southern United States. Ironically, this region was originally colonized not for purposes of establishing a religious haven (as was the case in the Puritan colonies of New England), but for economic reasons - specifically, for the growing of cash crops such as tobacco, cotton, rice, and indigo. During the colonial period (1607-1776), the South was a stronghold of the Anglican church. Its transition into a conservative Protestant Bible Belt occurred gradually over the next century, as a series of religious revival movements, many associated with the Baptist denomination, gained great popularity in the region.

Thus, the region is usually contrasted with mainstream Protestants and liberal Catholics of the northeast, the religiously diverse Midwest, the Mormon Corridor in Utah and southern Idaho, and the relatively secular western United States, where the percentage of non-religious people is the highest in the nation, reaching its maximum in the northwestern state of Washington at 27%, compared to the Bible Belt state of Alabama, where it is only 6%.[3]

"Bible Belts" can also be found in other countries, however, including Canada; the Netherlands, Northern Ireland and certain other parts of Europe; and Oceania (particularly the Pacific Islands).
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* 1 Geography
* 2 "Buckle" of the Bible Belt
* 3 Outside the United States
* 4 Geographical extent
* 5 Political and cultural context
* 6 References
* 7 Further reading
* 8 See also
* 9 Arts

[edit] Geography

Although exact boundaries do not exist, it is generally considered to cover much of the area stretching from Texas in the southwest, northwest to Kansas, north to most of Missouri, northeast to Virginia, and southeast to northern Florida.

The following states are usually considered to be, wholly or partly, included in the "Bible Belt":

* Alabama
* Arkansas
* Florida
* Georgia
* Southern Illinois
* Southern Indiana
* Kansas
* Kentucky
* Louisiana
* Mississippi
* Missouri
* North Carolina
* Oklahoma
* South Carolina
* Tennessee
* Texas
* Virginia
* West Virginia

[edit] "Buckle" of the Bible Belt

Several locations are occasionally referred to as the "Buckle of the Bible Belt" :

* Dallas-Fort Worth, Texas, home to three major evangelical seminaries, Dallas Theological Seminary, Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary and Criswell College , Southern Methodist University, the conservative Catholic University of Dallas and home of several of America's largest megachurches including the Potter's House pastored by T.D Jakes.

* Greenville, South Carolina, home of Bob Jones University

* Nashville, Tennessee, home to the headquarters of many denominations, including the Southern Baptist Convention, the National Association of Free Will Baptists and the United Methodist Church's Publishing House, is most frequently termed the "Buckle of the Bible Belt" (in addition, it is referred to as the "Protestant Vatican").

* Memphis, Tennessee, home of Church of God in Christ.

* Dayton, Tennessee, site of the Scopes Monkey Trial and home of Bryan College

* Charlotte, North Carolina, home of Billy Graham

* Cleveland, Tennessee, home of Lee University and the Church of God International Offices

* Springfield, Missouri, home of the Assemblies of God and the Baptist Bible Fellowship.

* Lynchburg, Virginia, home of Jerry Falwell's ministry and Liberty University

* Virginia Beach, Virginia, home of Regent University and the 700 Club with Pat Robertson

* Tulsa, Oklahoma, home of Oral Roberts University and the ministries of Kenneth Hagin and Billy James Hargis

* Abilene, Texas, home of Abilene Christian University (Church of Christ), Hardin-Simmons University and McMurry (Methodist) University

* Lubbock, Texas, which has more churches per capita than anywhere else in the nation.[4]


There are also several locations outside the Bible Belt that are centers of evangelical Christian activity, many of them are often called "Exclaves of the Bible Belt". They include Prescott, Arizona; Colorado Springs, Colorado; Grand Rapids, Michigan; Wheaton, Illinois; Lancaster, Pennsylvania; and parts of Southern California, particularly Orange County.

[edit] Outside the United States

In Australia, the term usually refers to tracts within individual cities, for example the north-western suburbs of Sydney focusing on Baulkham Hills and the north-eastern suburbs of Adelaide focusing on Paradise, Modbury and Golden Grove, though there is also a section of south-eastern Queensland comprising of the towns of Laidley, Gatton and Toowoomba which is referred to as the Bible Belt.[5]

In Canada, the term is also sometimes used to describe several disparate regions which have a higher than average level of church attendance. These include the majority of rural southern Alberta and Saskatchewan, parts of southern Manitoba, the Fraser Valley of British Columbia, the Annapolis Valley of Nova Scotia and the Saint John River Valley of New Brunswick.[6]

In China, Nanjing City is regarded as the area with the country's highest number of Christians since 1949. Amity Publishing House, a Christian publisher is based in this city.[7]

In Denmark, the area of northwestern Jutland is often mentioned as a Bible Belt. The region has a large number of members of the Lutheran movement called "Indre Mission".

In England, the rural areas of East Anglia and the core of the City of London near St.Helen's Bishopsgate are sometimes considered a Bible Belt.[8]

In Finland, the rural areas of Ostrobothnia are sometimes considered a Bible Belt.[9]

In France, Brittany and Burgundy are strongholds of the Roman Catholic faith, while the Cévennes region contains a substantial population of Protestants.

In India, the north eastern states of Nagaland, Mizoram , Meghalaya and the hill districts of Manipur form a continuous Bible Belt. Nagaland, Mizoram and Meghalaya are India's only Christian dominated states. In fact in Nagaland, Christians constitute 90.02%(2001 census) of the population, with 80% professing the Baptist faith and thereby earning the sobriquet of The most Baptist state in the world. The Bible belt has emerged as one of the major areas of the world that sends out missionaries, particularly to South Asia and South East Asia.[10]

In Ireland, the area extending from County Mayo to County Cavan, and including County Sligo, County Leitrim, County Roscommon, County Longford, County Westmeath and Connemara, is a stronghold of Irish catholicism and high church attendance.

The Netherlands has a Bible Belt (Bijbelgordel) as well, stretching from Zeeland to Overijssel. Immigrants from this area to the U.S. formed the Christian Reformed Church in North America. See Bible Belt (Netherlands)

In New Zealand, Mount Roskill, Auckland, contains the highest number of churches per capita in the country, and is the home of several Christian political candidates.[11]

In Northern Ireland, the region centered upon North Antrim is often referred to as Northern Ireland's Bible Belt. This is because the area is heavily Protestant with a large evangelical community. The MP for this constituency is Ian Paisley, a Free Presbyterian Reverend well known for his theological fundamentalism. The town of Ballymena, is the largest town in the constituency, is often referred to as the 'buckle' of the Bible Belt.[12]

In Norway, the Bible Belt covers the coast on the southwestern parts of the country, where there is a high concentration of Pentecostals, Free Churches and conservative members of the Church of Norway. See Fjellstrand, Norway[13]

In Scotland, the rural areas of Rosshire, Hebrides and Western Isles are considered a Bible Belt. The Inverness area of northern Scotland is fast becoming a Bible Belt as churches in the region buck the national trend of decline with reports of swelling numbers[14]

In Sweden, there is a Bible Belt covering the area around the city of Jönköping and Gothenburg, with a particular high concentration of non-conformists (Protestant congregations not affiliated with the Church of Sweden), especially Pentecostals and Congregationalists - and strong support for the Christian Democrats.[15]

[edit] Geographical extent

Tweedie (1978) defines the Bible Belt in terms of the audience for religious television. He finds two belts, one more eastern that stretches from central Florida through Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, Georgia, North and South Carolina, and into Virginia, and another that is more western, moving from central Texas to the Dakotas, but concentrated in Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri, and Mississippi. Notably absent from this belt, however, is the area of New Orleans and southern Louisiana, where Catholicism is predominant.[16]

In terms of demographics, the belt may in fact be most accurately described as extending westward to include most of West Texas and Eastern New Mexico, and perhaps even farther into areas of southern New Mexico settled by Texans.

The accuracy of this expanded schema, however, rests on the question of whether demographic proportion of evangelical Christians (or "fundamentalist Christians") is sufficient to include an area as being part of the Belt, or whether other cultural characteristics are necessary.

Even with the presently accepted boundaries (as indicated on the map in this article), it is possible to theorize that the Bible Belt could be divided into two or more sub-regions, at least one of which could include the westernmost section -- including Texas -- as being distinctive from the Deep South and most of the Southeastern United States.

[edit] Political and cultural context

The term Bible Belt is used either informally by journalists, or by its detractors, who suggest the region allows religion to influence politics, science and education.

The term was reportedly coined by H.L. Mencken. Reporting on the Scopes Trial in Dayton, Tennessee to the Baltimore Evening Sun on July 15, 1925, Mencken wrote of the region as "this bright, shining, buckle of the Bible belt".

In 1950, President Harry Truman told Catholic leaders he wanted to send an ambassador to the Vatican. Truman said the leading Democrats in Congress approved, but they warned him, "it would defeat Democratic Senators and Congressmen in the Bible Belt." [quoted in Amanda Smith, Hostage of Fortune (2001) p. 604].

In presidential elections, the Bible Belt states of Alabama, Kansas, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas and Virginia have voted for the Republican candidate in all elections since 1980.[17]

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Old 08-29-2007, 08:38 PM
 
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Oklahoma and Texas in a 2-way tie.
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:48 PM
 
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Yes I think the southern areas of the Midwest are that way. Midwestern states are still Midwestern- but in the extreme southern portions there are what are known as "little Dixies". Illinois for example is one of those areas. The cultural gap between southern Illinois and the Chicago area is outstanding- not to mention the geographical distance as well. Parts of Illinois go as far south as Tennessee.

So its hard to say that those people aren't Southerners.
Cairo,IL is farther south than Richmond, VA! And they grow cotton around Cairo!
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Old 08-29-2007, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Cairo,IL is farther south than Richmond, VA! And they grow cotton around Cairo!
Yes, indeed. Looking at the map its about 15 miles south of Richmond.

Thats why I think Illinois should split.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:02 PM
 
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I am in denial. MO doesn't belong here. KC and STL are most of the state and are far from bible belt thinking. Florida is also not so bible belt. What is this map source? All of Kansas and Nebraska not included??? What a rip-off. Posted on Wikipedia does not the truth make!
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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I am in denial. MO doesn't belong here. KC and STL are most of the state and are far from bible belt thinking. Florida is also not so bible belt. What is this map source? All of Kansas and Nebraska not included??? What a rip-off. Posted on Wikipedia does not the truth make!
I concur with you about Wikipedia and its reliability. I think that map is somewhat accurate though . Maybe some states are split like that.

They left out NOVA because DC has pushed into the area and has made it more liberal. 50 years ago NOVA was staunch in camp meetings and Southern Baptists.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:08 PM
 
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Take out MO, FL, add KS, NE, and Utah, although that is not quite the "bible". I'll be happy then.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Richmond
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Take out MO, FL, add KS, NE, and Utah, although that is not quite the "bible". I'll be happy then.
Gotta leave Kansas in. Thats definitely part of the Belt. Its one of the few states to support the Creation Theory. It has a Creation Science Museum and banned Evolution from text books. Especially Southern Kansas is very Bible Belt.

Missouri is part of the Belt if its below St Louis.

Nebraska can go and so can most all of Florida (yankeeized) except for North Florida . Utah is not the Belt either. They's Mormons which is a cult.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:56 AM
 
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Utah is not the Belt either. They's Mormons which is a cult.
ignorant much? i don't think the LDS people on this forum would appreciate it. there's more to this country than just virginia, the south & christianity, just broaden your horizons and maybe you'll figure it out...

and most of florida is definitely part of the bible belt, not the other way around. from the entire panhandle (pensacola, tallahassee, jacksonville) on down through gainsville & ocala, veering west to steer clear of the transplants from the northeast in orlando, and down on into tampa and further east down to the inland towns near lake okeechobee.

so, to put it very simply...

tallahasee, jacksonville, tampa: IN
orlando, miami: OUT
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