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Old 03-16-2012, 10:26 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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So which major 'auto-dominated' metropolises in the US (e.g. Phoenix, Houston, Indianapolis, Charlotte) are improving in terms of public transport, vibrancy of city centre/target nodes, TOD development, walkability, city attractiveness/safety.etc. I say improving because most people would consider this an improvement...in which cities are the city authorities not doing enough? Where this pattern of things doesn't seem to be changing at all?
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Is Detroit STILL without a rail transit system? That'd be one. Indy or Columbus are two others without rail transit that I know of and am unsure of any proposals on the table that have funding and approvals.
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Glendale, CA
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L.A., Houston, and Denver would be three traditionally auto-dominated cities that are fairly rapidly improving mass transit. Maybe Minneapolis as well?
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:48 AM
 
Location: London, NYC, DC
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Los Angeles, but it needs to radically re-zone and re-plan in order to capitalise on its investment. If you spend all that money on a rail system but don't aggressively develop around it, you're just wasting money.
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Old 03-16-2012, 10:50 AM
 
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Los Angeles, but it needs to radically re-zone and re-plan in order to capitalise on its investment. If you spend all that money on a rail system but don't aggressively develop around it, you're just wasting money.
Or at least have a very good system of feeder buses, which is what is happening in my city.

When visiting LA I mostly relied on the Metro to get me places. And it worked surprisingly well for where I wanted to get too. But it didn't seem like the station precincts were any more developed than any other neighbourhood in the city.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:01 PM
 
Location: London, NYC, DC
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Or at least have a very good system of feeder buses, which is what is happening in my city.

When visiting LA I mostly relied on the Metro to get me places. And it worked surprisingly well for where I wanted to get too. But it didn't seem like the station precincts were any more developed than any other neighbourhood in the city.
Are you in Perth? They've done a great job with attempting to grow in a more TOD manner from what I've seen.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:06 PM
 
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Is Detroit STILL without a rail transit system? That'd be one. Indy or Columbus are two others without rail transit that I know of and am unsure of any proposals on the table that have funding and approvals.
They have a people mover or whatever its called lol I guess Detroit doesn't want any transit rail system except cars since that's pretty much their birthplace.
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:23 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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. Maybe Minneapolis as well?
Yes
Daily ridership for our first light rail line (opened 2004) was projected to have a daily ridership of 24,800 by 2020. In 2011 the daily ridership was 30,500.
Another light rail under construction and many people are starting to throw away the car and ride the bicycle
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:26 PM
 
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Daily ridership for our first light rail line (opened 2004) was projected to have a daily ridership of 24,800 by 2020. In 2011 the daily ridership was 30,500.
Another light rail under construction and many people are starting to throw away the car and ride the bicycle

Not likely. You cannot tow a boat or camper up north without a motor vehicle.
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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So which major 'auto-dominated' metropolises in the US (e.g. Phoenix, Houston, Indianapolis, Charlotte) are improving in terms of public transport, vibrancy of city centre/target nodes, TOD development, walkability, city attractiveness/safety.etc. I say improving because most people would consider this an improvement...in which cities are the city authorities not doing enough? Where this pattern of things doesn't seem to be changing at all?
Here is Houston's Transportation plan:


It is a start but no where as comprehensive as what we had 100 years ago.

Here is the rail system 100 years ago:



Here are the TOD's Houston is hoping to develop around its stations:


quite ambitious. TOD's thus far have been most successful south of the Medical center
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