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Old 04-03-2012, 02:07 PM
 
Location: LBC
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Many of the most malcontented "city folk" I've known often express a desire to move to "the country". Of course when they do, they take publicly financed roads to get there. Where they still live on a public grid. And are employed disproportionately by divisions of the Federal, state or and county governments. Or as publicly-subsidized contractors. After generation of this reverse migration, the divide has only deepened, and its exclusively the fault of Americans living in cities.

But Oklahoma is free from Sharia Law, so they must be doing something right.
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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I can tell you right now it is mainly the smug city-dwellers who consistently feel the need to bash the south and rural areas.
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:22 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Barry Schoch, Pennsylvania's Transportation Secretary, just put the smack down on all the rural Pennsylvanians who complain about the money that PennDOT "wastes" on mass transit in urban areas, especially Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. He pointed out that the state spends more money subsidizing rural roads than mass transit. In Pennsylvania, if it's paved and it handles fewer than 10,000 vehicles per day, then it's being subsidized. An awful lot of the road network in the rural areas that fits those criteria. If anything, it's the taxpayers in the urban areas, especially Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, who are being shafted here.
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:40 PM
 
Location: LBC
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Barry Schoch, Pennsylvania's Transportation Secretary, just put the smack down on all the rural Pennsylvanians who complain about the money that PennDOT "wastes" on mass transit in urban areas, especially Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. He pointed out that the state spends more money subsidizing rural roads than mass transit. In Pennsylvania, if it's paved and it handles fewer than 10,000 vehicles per day, then it's being subsidized. An awful lot of the road network in the rural areas that fits those criteria. If anything, it's the taxpayers in the urban areas, especially Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, who are being shafted here.
But that's exactly what a smug, urban elitist would say.
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:42 PM
 
Location: LBC
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I can tell you right now it is mainly the smug city-dwellers who consistently feel the need to bash the south and rural areas.
How do people in cities manage to "consistently bash the south and rural areas" and ignore them at the same time?
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:51 PM
 
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But that's exactly what a smug, urban elitist would say.
What's "smug" about that? It's factual. Truth is, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia account for 60% of the state's population, but 70% of the state's GDP, and yet, they only get 50% of the spending. (The percentages are approximate.)
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:03 PM
 
Location: LBC
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What's "smug" about that? It's factual. Truth is, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia account for 60% of the state's population, but 70% of the state's GDP, and yet, they only get 50% of the spending. (The percentages are approximate.)
Sarcasm implied. My bad.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What's "smug" about that? It's factual. Truth is, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia account for 60% of the state's population, but 70% of the state's GDP, and yet, they only get 50% of the spending. (The percentages are approximate.)
No, they pay for that privilege to live a certain lifestyle because the U.S. is a materialistic, industrialized and status hungry society and almost 100% of city dwellers who live there by choice are geared towards this either via career status or social status. They wouldn't need all that stuff if they weren't constantly consuming and trying to become more "efficient" or in the name of some idea of "progress". It's an entire ideological divide.
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:18 PM
 
Location: LBC
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No, they pay for that privilege to live a certain lifestyle because the U.S. is a materialistic, industrialized and status hungry society and almost 100% of city dwellers who live there by choice are geared towards this either via career status or social status. They wouldn't need all that stuff if they weren't constantly consuming and trying to become more "efficient" or in the name of some idea of "progress". It's an entire ideological divide.

Please tell me that is sarcasm as well...
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Old 04-03-2012, 04:21 PM
 
Location: plano
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City dwellers idolize Paris, NYC, or London and hope their city grows into something that makes residents of those cities find their own city appealing. They assume all others want dense residential development, architectural wonders skylines, mass transit, large in city parks, restaurants on every corner and they fail to realize some really dont like this stuff.

Rural residents feed the city dwellers, see their roads neglicted while double decker freeways are built for city folks. Rural dwellers see their taxes fund mass transit that isnt self sustaining, mortgage fixes for the city slickers and feel they are getting a raw deal.

If this wasnt enough, the city slickers chose to look down on rural dwellers assuming they are under educated, bible thumping science deniers and generally less important than city slickers. Rural dwellers really dont care what the city slicker thinks. But when the real estate bubble and financial disaster hit them using tax dollars to bail out banks and city slickers who bought more home than they could afford. This on top of a tax check that funds more things for city slickers than themselves, they feel none too found of city slickers.

With these polar opposites feeling unfairly treated, the uncivil wars of CD begin pitting rural like southern city dwellers against the all important city slicker.........

Its up suburb dwellers to play peace keeper on CD, to gain a cease fire so city slickers can go on dreaming and spending and driving up the price of living in the city. Rural dwellers, who dont have the time to sit at a desk and post all day, like to see an arrow fired on their behalf on occasion to avoid all out war when tax season hits.

.... and that is why CD wars begin between these groups
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