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The "north" vs "south" arguments are somewhat amusing considering all countries in Europe are at a more northerly latitude compared to the US. I always found it fascinating that European settlement patterns trended so much further south in latitude compared to their native homelands.
I believe it has to do with currents and winds, going on a straight path across the Atlantic you would be fighting the wind the entire way, so they tended to go towards the south.
It is interesting though, Washington, DC. is at the southern part of Portugal if you were to follow Longitude lines all the way over the Atlantic.
I think it is more of a culture thing than the actual location... For example I don't think of Miami people as southerners bc they act very much like northerners and they don't have a twang like most southerners do.
I take quite a few day trips to Morgantown and have a really hard time calling it Southern. More like Northern Appalachia... not much different than Southern PA a few miles away. In my opinion, one has to travel South of Clarksburg to start feeling like he/she is in the South in WV.
I agree with you, except I'd put the line around Weston. There's nothing Southern about northern West Virginia.
One thing? Missouri harvests a lot of corn. As do Iowa, and Illinois, and Minnesota, and Wisconsin..
Unlike you, I have also lived in both the Midwest and the Northeast, and going from one to the other didn't require much of a adjustment at all. I could go from Wisconsin to Maine to Vermont to Illinois to upstate NY, and I would have no trouble talking about dairy farming, or hockey, or shoveling snow, or the Catholic Church, or Blue state politics, or enjoying freshwater lakes, etc, etc,etc. I don't particulary care what you decide about Missouri--just don't tell me about some wide chiasm between Midwest and Northeast, because in quite a few cases, it doesn't exist.
Well I get your point, but ppl in places like NYC don't really dairy farm lol. There are things more applicable to the Midwest than to the northeast. Upstate ny yeah you'd prob find dairy farmers but certain regions grow things other regions don't... Even things like weddings are so different. Ny metro and nj and Boston do big fancy weddings... Most other parts of the country can just do a backyard BBQ wedding and it's great. I think the Midwest and northeast have more differences than they do similarities.
Interesting I consider north Carolina the border of where the south begins- yes to me VA is northern. I also think Miami, even though geographically southern, has culture and people similar to the north. Same as Los Angeles- I don't think of them as southerners.
Anything below Indy is the South (different terrain, accents, etc.)
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