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From north to south, I consider the mid-atlantic to be the states of New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, and Maryland. I generally also think of DC as mid-atlantic. Virginia is the transition between mid-atlantic and the south, and I can see it reasonably being included in either or both. I have sometimes seen North Carolina included in mid-atlantic, but I think that is pushing it, to me NC is clearly in the "south-atlantic" or "southeast"
As to characteristics, I agree with the posters above who said that it is kind of the "norm" of the US, along with the midwest. Generalizing a bit (as is necessary when discussing an area including several states and tens of millions of people), I think of the mid-atlantic as having four discernible seasons without extremes. I think of the area as being more urban than most of the US (this relatively small strip of land contains New York, Philly, Baltimore, and DC, and I depending on your definition may include Norfolk/Va Beach as well), and also being more educated and affluent. As indicated by the name, I think of the area as being somewhat influenced by the Atlantic ocean (shipping, vacationing, etc). All in all, I would say the mid-atlantic and south atlantic are probably my favorite portions of our great country.
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From north to south, I consider the mid-atlantic to be the states of New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Delaware, and Maryland. I generally also think of DC as mid-atlantic. Virginia is the transition between mid-atlantic and the south, and I can see it reasonably being included in either or both. I have sometimes seen North Carolina included in mid-atlantic, but I think that is pushing it, to me NC is clearly in the "south-atlantic" or "southeast"
As to characteristics, I agree with the posters above who said that it is kind of the "norm" of the US, along with the midwest. Generalizing a bit (as is necessary when discussing an area including several states and tens of millions of people), I think of the mid-atlantic as having four discernible seasons without extremes. I think of the area as being more urban than most of the US (this relatively small strip of land contains New York, Philly, Baltimore, and DC, and I depending on your definition may include Norfolk/Va Beach as well), and also being more educated and affluent. As indicated by the name, I think of the area as being somewhat influenced by the Atlantic ocean (shipping, vacationing, etc). All in all, I would say the mid-atlantic and south atlantic are probably my favorite portions of our great country.
The shift to southern is pretty quick once you get outside of the DC suburbs. Fredericksburg is definitely the beginning of the south.
I think Richmond and the Hampton Roads can be considered mid atlantic even though they are southern, New York is considered to be mid atlantic and its obviously northern.
It was part of the Dominion of New England for one year in the 1680s. And it wasn't governed by the same governor as Massachusetts. New York is as much New England as Pakistan is Greece. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...edonEmpire.jpg
New York was founded as a Dutch colony (New Amsterdam, New Netherland). To this day, that fact remains an important part of NYC's identity. Gantz's post with the NYC flag is meaningful. The NYC flag resembles the former Dutch flag.
I said there was some logic, not that I agreed with it.
There is no doubt in my mind that Virginia should be considered mid-atlantic. It has more in common with Maryland and Delaware then with the rest of the south, except for NC.
There is no doubt in my mind that Virginia should be considered mid-atlantic. It has more in common with Maryland and Delaware then with the rest of the south, except for NC.
VA can be considered both mid-Atlantic and Southern.
VA can be considered both mid-Atlantic and Southern.
True, but most of Virginia would relate with the "mid-atlantic" over the south. Also I think there is a clear difference between southern and appalachain cultures. Take WV as an example, I wouldn't consider it southern but more appalachian. Southern Virginia might best fit in with WV, TN, and KY with that in mind, but not really GA, SC, MI, AL, LA, ect... NOVA is for sure mid-atlantic and so is 1/3 of WV.
True, but most of Virginia would relate with the "mid-atlantic" over the south. Also I think there is a clear difference between southern and appalachain cultures. Take WV as an example, I wouldn't consider it southern but more appalachian. Southern Virginia might best fit in with WV, TN, and KY with that in mind, but not really GA, SC, MI, AL, LA, ect... NOVA is for sure mid-atlantic and so is 1/3 of WV.
Well Appalachia itself is a subregion that spans both the north and south. In VA, Appalachia is pretty much Southern; it's not too different from Appalachia in KY, NC, TN, etc. I actually think that most of VA identifies as Southern. Only NOVA would explicitly identify with the mid-Atlantic for the most part due to their close ties to DC.
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