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They didn't say 'I think...' or 'For me...', they stated it as if it was some sort of truth.
So, you've noticed posters doing that on these forums too, huh? lol.
It really boils down to some people really disliking cold winter weather and, in the case of the northeast, the high cost of living. For me, weather doesn't matter much and a few months of cold is not a problem. I also believe that for the most part you get what you pay for. Therefore, I'll take the northeast over any other region in the U.S. as a place to live.
So, you've noticed posters doing that on these forums too, huh? lol.
It really boils down to some people really disliking cold winter weather. For me, weather doesn't matter much and a few months of cold is not a problem. I'll take the northeast over any other region in the U.S. as a place to live.
Of course people do that all the time on here, but I can't put my finger on why this instance seemed odd. Usually you can tell something's an opinion because of the way it's written even if they don't outright say it is. I could actually just pm that guy and ask him now I've found him.
I am constantly amazed by the number of people who live in the south who are genuinely horrified of "the cold" up north, and who consider snowfall a type of disaster. This includes transplants from up north, not just natives.
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I grew up in Wisconsin and lived for 15 years in Canada, so I know a little bit about what it like to live in the north. Yes, you learn to dress warn, and yes, you shovel out your car and scrape it off if you need to go somewhere, or even if you just want to. Not just once in a while, but every day for 5 or 6 months, so you get used to it. But that doesn't make it fun or easy.
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Me too. Posts like this exemplify that:
When its cold, I simply put on a coat. I never think of it as a particularly harrowing act of self-defense. I guess the thought of outerwear just flummoxes some folks.
The title of this thread says "harder" to live in the north, not impossible or life threatening. I haven't heard about many retired Florida farmers retiring in North Dakota. I wonder why.
I grew up in Wisconsin and lived for 15 years in Canada, so I know a little bit about what it like to live in the north. Yes, you learn to dress warn, and yes, you shovel out your car and scrape it off if you need to go somewhere, or even if you just want to. Not just once in a while, but every day for 5 or 6 months, so you get used to it. But that doesn't make it fun or easy.
The title of this thread says "harder" to live in the north, not impossible or life threatening. I haven't heard about many retired Florida farmers retiring in North Dakota. I wonder why.
Because they die of skin cancer before they have a chance to retire?
I hate the climate of the southern tier of the US with the very intense scorching sun angle and non European latitude. I'm also not a big fan of southern culture, but I could understand why some would prefer it. I also don't like the general laid back attitude, complacency, and apathy that is very common outside the largest cities in the region. These are just a few reasons why I prefer living in the northern tier of the US. And jtur88 picked an extremely far south locale in Texas to move to when many can move/retire to a more moderate climate/latitude location within the South like Boone, Asheville, Crossville, etc.
The title of this thread says "harder" to live in the north, not impossible or life threatening. I haven't heard about many retired Florida farmers retiring in North Dakota. I wonder why.
I retired from Texas to Philly. I find it a considerably easier (not harder) to live up here. Believe it or not, not everyone wants to live in that climate "y'all" have down there. And it wasn't just the incessant heat and humidity that drove me to a more hospitable locale. QOL took a quantum leap.
Ok ok, it may be a weather thing, but is there any reason at all that I'm missing why someone would particularly call Chicago a 'hard place to live'?
I've found the thread, which was 'Census is saying city population growth is ticking up this decade. I don't believe them.' Here's the line:
'Chicago is still Chicago. There is no reason to believe that the cities population free fall has come to an end. It is a difficult place to live in and that will continue to push people out.'
I don't know why, but calling a place 'a difficult place to live' without making reference to his own experience or preference just seems a bit odd if it really is only his opinion.
To clarify, I'm not down on Chicago, or hoping for there to be something terrible about the place, it's the exact opposite really. To me central Chicago looks really awesome, and I just can't see what would lead someone to say that that way. It's highly probable it's just the climate that's the issue for him, but it just seemed odd to me.
I think they were referring to Chicago's crime rates and cost of living, both of which I personally think are overstated. Chicago's crime rate spiked last year but it has, like the rest of the country, experienced a general downward trend and the current rates are far lower than in past decades. Moreover crime is very contained to certain neighborhoods and the likelihood of victimization in a decent area is quite low. For people living in the most dangerous neighborhoods yes Chicago likely is a difficult place to live. But for everyone else, not so much.
Regarding the cost of living, it's a little tougher. Chicago is expensive compared to most places in the Sunbelt. So yes, for someone who is accustomed to a low cost low tax Sunbelt city, Chicago might be a difficult place to live. But compared to (most) East and West Coast cities, it's actually fairly reasonable. So it really depends on where you're coming from both literally and figuratively.
I retired from Texas to Philly. I find it a considerably easier (not harder) to live up here. Believe it or not, not everyone wants to live in that climate "y'all" have down there. And that's just the climate. QOL took a quantum leap.
We visited Florida from Michigan in late February and instead of wanting to move there, it made me really appreciate all of the good qualities that we enjoy back home. Traffic was horrendous and nobody seemed settled or permanent, just like they were either a snowbird or on vacation, which the majority of them probably were.
I've heard it said that the sunbelt states have very transient populations, and I can definitely see where that could be true. I wish I had a dollar for everyone that I have known in my 40-something years who moved to a state like Florida from the North thinking that it would be the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and then moved back within months or a few years. and stated that they would never do it again. Nothing against Florida or any other state, but all states have their good and their bad qualities, and what it boils down to is that people downplay the good in the "cold" states and exaggerate the good in the "warm" states. Yet there is much, much more to having a good quality of life than whether or not you have to shovel snow once in a while.
We visited Florida from Michigan in late February and instead of wanting to move there, it made me really appreciate all of the good qualities that we enjoy back home. Traffic was horrendous and nobody seemed settled or permanent, just like they were either a snowbird or on vacation, which the majority of them probably were.
I've heard it said that the sunbelt states have very transient populations, and I can definitely see where that could be true. I wish I had a dollar for everyone that I have known in my 40-something years who moved to a state like Florida from the North thinking that it would be the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and then moved back within months or a few years. and stated that they would never do it again. Nothing against Florida or any other state, but all states have their good and their bad qualities, and what it boils down to is that people downplay the good in the "cold" states and exaggerate the good in the "warm" states. Yet there is much, much more to having a good quality of life than whether or not you have to shovel snow once in a while.
Yep - I'm a returnee. I made a good living in Texas and made the most of my time there, but once it became possible to live wherever we wanted, we headed back to the promised land.
Yep - I'm a returnee. I made a good living in Texas and made the most of my time there, but once it became possible to live wherever we wanted, we headed back to the promised land.
Well, if by your location you mean that you live in Center City Philadelphia, I can't blame you. What an awesome place to live!
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