Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-20-2021, 12:20 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
8,128 posts, read 7,568,606 times
Reputation: 5785

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketSci View Post
I think a good part of LA is "suckily walkable" - there are sidewalks, and a high average density, and a few people walking, and good walking weather - but so much of the streetscape is so spread out or built car-centric that even what seem like the most pleasantly walkable areas are more "destinations" than live-work-play areas - plenty of parking spots - while much of the rest is a strip center here, an office there, a parking lot/ramp, etc.

The example of Wilshire Boulevard - was that supposed to be a good or bad example of walkability? There are good sections, but huge empty gaps near the VA and the golf courses, and walking through the office parks doesn't seem that appealing for walking.
https://goo.gl/maps/iTBBZqB4jXz8sDdG6
https://goo.gl/maps/BkdekpbnN9cYSfFJA
This is so true about LA. But let the boosters tell you it's a walking urban paradise. I like how the city has made strides with Metro expansion and infill stations, and you can technically walk much of Central LA on sidewalks, but it's certainly not a first tier "walkable" city.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-20-2021, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
3,576 posts, read 3,078,446 times
Reputation: 9795
Quote:
Originally Posted by whereiend View Post
Houston has to be up there for this one.. It's quite dense in terms of population with a lot of multifamily housing. However it also tends to have frequently missing sidewalks, very wide and busy roads with crazy drivers, amenities spread out over a very large area, and public transit that is just okay. Not to mention that for a good chunk of the year the climate is brutal for walking outside.

My (admittedly biased and perhaps flawed) mental image of inner loop Houston is a lot of this type of development. Very dense housing but also clearly car oriented.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/VhVEthkWYPxMBWin7
This is the densest neighborhood in Houston, (un)affectionately known back in the day as the Gulfton Ghetto.
https://goo.gl/maps/dtnRtoAzNRK6N4cZA

Left side of the image tract density is over 31k, on the right its over 52k. Shows that density does not always equal walkability.

(My first neighborhood when I moved to Houston back in the 80s was right behind where this image was taken on Elm Street. It was even rougher back then, when Houston was the murder capital and shotgun-toting security guards walked in pairs at some complexes. Ah, those were the days...)
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2021, 12:59 PM
 
2,228 posts, read 1,401,312 times
Reputation: 2916
Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketSci View Post
This is the densest neighborhood in Houston, (un)affectionately known back in the day as the Gulfton Ghetto.
https://goo.gl/maps/dtnRtoAzNRK6N4cZA

Left side of the image tract density is over 31k, on the right its over 52k. Shows that density does not always equal walkability.

(My first neighborhood when I moved to Houston back in the 80s was right behind where this image was taken on Elm Street. It was even rougher back then, when Houston was the murder capital and shotgun-toting security guards walked in pairs at some complexes. Ah, those were the days...)
Yep, that's an even better example than mine.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-20-2021, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Star-Spangled City
53 posts, read 32,786 times
Reputation: 45
I feel that overall, Baltimore is a pretty walkable city thanks to it's extensive grid layout and the fact that the city isn't massive.

Neighborhoods that are within the "L" of Baltimore (Fells Point, Fed Hill, Canton, Highlandtown, Harbor East, Mt Vernon, Midtown, etc.) are no doubt the most walkable neighborhoods in the city. Outside of the L, most neighborhoods have a small to medium-sized commercial corridor but they lack the variety of businesses that help central neighborhoods prosper. There are a few exceptions.

However, there are a handful of revitalization projects going on outside of the L (Perkins Homes, Reservoir Hill, Park Heights, Northwood, and Pigtown to name a few). Baltimore's walkability will continue to improve.

Downtown is a special case. While there has been a huge population growth downtown, the walkability is low. There's so many wide, one-way streets and not much retail.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-21-2021, 11:25 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
10,214 posts, read 15,927,883 times
Reputation: 7203
Does weather factor into walkability?!?! If so then Chicago and Minneapolis are dense but not walkable. On the flip side, Las Vegas and Phoenix probably count too.

Are Charleston SC, Savannah, and Key West considered not so dense? If so they are still very walkable.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2021, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Land of the Free
6,741 posts, read 6,730,607 times
Reputation: 7588
True walkability means going between neighborhoods, and neighborhoods that slowly blend into the next one as you walk.

NY, Chicago, Boston, SF, DC, Seattle, and Philly generally meet this definition, as do many small-medium sized cities, particularly college towns.

LA has a lot of great walkable areas, but you can't really walk from downtown to Hollywood, or even to Los Feliz.

Some cities density is also understated. Portland's is because of hills and the airport, Denver's is because of the airport, and New Orleans is because of the large swampy area in New Orleans East is within city limits. French Quarter through Uptown along the streetcar line is very walkable and goes for a few miles.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2021, 08:00 AM
 
14,021 posts, read 15,022,389 times
Reputation: 10466
Birmingham Alabama is decently walkable but has insanely low density.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2021, 09:29 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
13,966 posts, read 24,165,301 times
Reputation: 14762
I walk all over Miami and Miami Beach. I suppose that my feet don't know what they are doing? I also bike all over it through CitiBike bike share. Again, not sure that my feet have gotten the memo that they shouldn't be able to do that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2021, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
1,350 posts, read 882,934 times
Reputation: 1950
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Lennox 70 View Post
Does weather factor into walkability?!?! If so then Chicago and Minneapolis are dense but not walkable. On the flip side, Las Vegas and Phoenix probably count too.

Are Charleston SC, Savannah, and Key West considered not so dense? If so they are still very walkable.
Well weather is subjective. Some people wouldn't bother to walk in the Phoenix heat. The extreme cold (which doesn't last that long) in Mpls and Chicago isn't enough to make them not walkable.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-22-2021, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Miami (prev. NY, Atlanta, SF, OC and San Diego)
7,409 posts, read 6,553,115 times
Reputation: 6685
And ditto for Brickell; Midtown/Wynwood/Design District and other neighborhoods ….as posted by someone earlier the problem THEY or OTHERS have with Miami is NOT that is not walkable within a number of different neighborhoods but that it loses points for lack of interconnectivity between the various walkable neighborhoods (though, if you are like me with Brickell in Miami Beach, you probably spend 80%+ of your time there in your 95-99% walkable neighborhood).

Quote:
Originally Posted by rnc2mbfl View Post
I walk all over Miami and Miami Beach. I suppose that my feet don't know what they are doing? I also bike all over it through CitiBike bike share. Again, not sure that my feet have gotten the memo that they shouldn't be able to do that.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > General U.S.

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top