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I always assumed Philadelphia got a trickle down of blacks from NYC, meaning a good representation of Afro-Latinos and Afro-Caribbeans. We have a black poster who is from Barbados, from what I understand he was first in Philadelphia then went to NYC.
I could be very wrong here, my experience with Philadelphia is literally driving the 95, stopping into Philadelphia, getting one Philly cheese steak, and leaving. So yeah.
On the other hand, Atlanta doesn't feel very diverse to me in terms of their black population. It's almost entirely all African-American. Before some people jump on me, that's my experience. Even when I had blacks there tell me they're part Puerto Rican, and things of this nature, they did so with American Black accents.
I think Philly has a relatively diverse black population but I would still view NYC, Boston, Miami and DC above it. If I am not mistaken those are the only 4 metro areas where more than 1/4th of the black population is foreign born. If you extend it out to 2nd generation, a couple of those cities like Boston hit more than half the black population is not African American.
You can also tell this on the ground level living in these cities. I am originally from Jamaica but have lived in NYC, Miami, Boston and Orlando in the US. All these cities you can feel the foreign born black influence. Just turn on the radio, go to a predominantly black party. What type of music are people listening to and also what languages/accents are they speaking/speaking with.
I know here in Boston, if you are at a get together and its predominantly black folks. You hear the accents and hip hop music is far down the pecking order for what people want to hear.
Philly doesn't have what I'd call a diverse black community. Not compared to NYC, DC and Atlanta anyway.
Yeah, I think we could all agree those 3 are consensus top places.
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Originally Posted by SDPMiami
I always assumed Philadelphia got a trickle down of blacks from NYC, meaning a good representation of Afro-Latinos and Afro-Caribbeans. We have a black poster who is from Barbados, from what I understand he was first in Philadelphia then went to NYC.
I could be very wrong here, my experience with Philadelphia is literally driving the 95, stopping into Philadelphia, getting one Philly cheese steak, and leaving. So yeah.
lol yeah. Don't worry, you are not the only one. You probably went to Pat's or Geno's too near the Italian market which is miles away from the diverse West Philadelphia communities I am speaking of.
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Originally Posted by edwardsyzzurphands
I think Philly has a relatively diverse black population but I would still view NYC, Boston, Miami and DC above it. If I am not mistaken those are the only 4 metro areas where more than 1/4th of the black population is foreign born. If you extend it out to 2nd generation, a couple of those cities like Boston hit more than half the black population is not African American.
You are right about the percentages. Africans are attracted to Boston for the same reasons as Philadelphia. Education. Still Philadelphia's African population including African Americans is more diverse in my opinion. I think the clear separation between Philly/Boston and DC/NYC/ATL is that those places offer a bit more variety in terms of black profession culture on a whole within their respective metros. Why I think Philly separates itself from Boston is just the numbers. 1 out of 10 Pennsylvanian's are African American. That works out to roughly 1.4 million people in this state, most of which are situated in the southeastern/eastern part of the state. The only other states with higher percentage and total populations of AA are... New York, Georgia, Maryland, Virginia, Texas, Illinois. Obviously Texas is a very big state and I think it deserves mentioning. The others are situated around the cities I already mentioned. Massachusetts has just a fraction of the African American populations and even lower percent of the total population. Basically what I am getting at is that 25% foreign born in Boston means less than 10-15% for Philadelphia. You can also find plenty of Caribbean music in clubs, on the radio, etc. Philly is really all about the food. This was place was featured onf Diners Drive ins and Dives: Downtown Philly Jerk Chicken Video : Food Network
I would love for you to explain that? Miami is such a niche place and nearly a quarter of Africans are foreign born. However, you can toss Miami right out the window when you look at the raw numbers. In my opinion diverse would also mean a large presence of African American culture too.
I know a little about this topic and I would say: NYC, DC, ATL, Philly, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, Minneapolis, St. Louis. These are the places were African immigrants begin their journey of joining our culture.
I can really on speak in specifics for Philly but this is the type of thing that separates the boys to the men: About AFRICOM-PHILLY
The number of Africans has been really growing in our area over the past decade or so. Immigration in general here has been growing a lot.
Afro-Caribbean and Afro-Latino yeah, but I don't know about African American (I know MIA has a decent sized population) and Continental African.
Yeah, Miami is cool for Afro-Caribbeans and Afro-Latinos, but definitely not an ideal place for African Americans. And when it comes to Afro-Latinos, most Afro-Latinos don't even consider themselves black or relate to Black American culture anyway, so you can pretty much cross them off the list...
Yeah, Miami is cool for Afro-Caribbeans and Afro-Latinos, but definitely not an ideal place for African Americans. And when it comes to Afro-Latinos, most Afro-Latinos don't even consider themselves black or relate to Black American culture anyway, so you can pretty much cross them off the list...
SDPMiami explained what he was talking about earlier...Black Cubans tend to be more upfront about their Blackness...I was thinking the same thing you were until he clarified
Your comment about relating to Black American culture really isn't relevant to a most diverse Black communities list. Only thing that really matters is that they are Black and not those mixed latinos who don't think they are. As for being ideal for AAs, not sure if that really matters as far as the diversity is concerned. That's another issue unless we talking about class diversity as well.
South Florida is truly one of those places where if you say "whats up" to a Black man, you genuinely have no clue as to what accent is coming back to you. Really second only to NYC. Only real knock is the lack of continental African Blacks.
What percentage of Philadelphia's black population is foreign born? It strikes me as pretty much all African American (i.e. 90%+), I don't really associate it with West Indians.
What percentage of Philadelphia's black population is foreign born? It strikes me as pretty much all African American (i.e. 90%+), I don't really associate it with West Indians.
but definitely not an ideal place for African Americans.
Why exactly not? There are ton of venues catering to African-Americans. There is a hip hop club a couple blocks from my place. There are tons of African-American tourists here, and the most English speaking neighborhood is Liberty City because it's almost exclusively composed of African-Americans. We have "Urban Beach Weekend", a big festival, and are featured in numerous hip hop songs.
I will also pull a few other cities when I have time. Let me know if there are any specific ones you want to see.
Also before anyone says it, I know that many of these countries have people that identify as a race other than Black. I just think that we need to include them all because its impossible to paint a picture of Black diversity if you do not include Latin American countries. Many of whom share a similar history to many West Indian countries.
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