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View Poll Results: Select all states that are northeastern
Connecticut 66 88.00%
Delaware 48 64.00%
Illinois 3 4.00%
Indiana 2 2.67%
Iowa 3 4.00%
Kentucky 3 4.00%
Maine 62 82.67%
Maryland 47 62.67%
Massachussetts 66 88.00%
Michigan 5 6.67%
Minnesota 2 2.67%
Missouri 3 4.00%
New Hampshire 63 84.00%
New Jersey 56 74.67%
New York 66 88.00%
North Carolina 4 5.33%
Ohio 8 10.67%
Pennsylvania 55 73.33%
Rhode Island 63 84.00%
Tennessee 3 4.00%
Vermont 60 80.00%
Virginia 7 9.33%
West Virginia 7 9.33%
Wisconsin 3 4.00%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 75. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-08-2015, 06:07 PM
 
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Not necessarily, this is a baseless stereotype.. There are affluent areas in all states and all regions of the country.. This debate is more so about regional identity and the age long debate of whether or not certain Mid Atlantic states are considered part of the Northeast region or not.
It's not a stereotype. The states with the highest incomes include NJ, MA, CT, and MD (for those who think it's Northeastern). Parts of the NY metro region in NY are pretty wealthy, too.

There are affluent areas everywhere, but there's a higher concentration of affluence in these states. It's really more of a BosWash thing than a Northeastern thing.

"Washington, D.C. and New Jersey top the list of the richest states, tying for first place. The nation’s capital claims the highest per capita GDP and taxes in the country. Connecticut and Maryland tie for third place, with Maryland ranking first nationally in income. Massachusetts rounds out the top five. The state ranks sixth in taxes paid per capita, despite the reputation that earned the Bay State the nickname "Taxachusetts." ... Conversely, Alaska, Maryland, Hawaii, New Hampshire, and Utah have the lowest percentages of households earning $24,999 or below, while Washington, D.C., New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland, and Massachusetts have the highest percentages of households earning above $200,000." The Richest And Poorest States In 2014 - Forbes
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:15 PM
 
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So based on the poll it is plain to see that the following states are considered northeastern:

New York, Massachussetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut Maine, Vermont, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New Hampshire. It is a very small region

It looks like everyone considers New York and New England northeastern, with slightly less considering Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, and Delaware northeastern. Is it because of the mid-atlantic thing I suppose?
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:32 PM
 
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So based on the poll it is plain to see that the following states are considered northeastern:

New York, Massachussetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut Maine, Vermont, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New Hampshire. It is a very small region

It looks like everyone considers New York and New England northeastern, with slightly less considering Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland, and Delaware northeastern. Is it because of the mid-atlantic thing I suppose?
Who knows. Only in city-data land are PA and NJ considered less Northeastern than NY and New England. Even New England states on this poll are pretty unevenly distributed.
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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Who knows. Only in city-data land are PA and NJ considered less Northeastern than NY and New England. Even New England states on this poll are pretty unevenly distributed.
Really? Because New Jersey is quite literally more southern than Connecticut in geographic location and as far as I can see culture too. Logically It would not be considered as northeastern as Connecticut. Just like most people seem to consider Delaware less northeastern than New Jersey, and Virginia is considered less northeastern than Delaware. Makes sense to me.
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:44 PM
 
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Not necessarily, this is a baseless stereotype.. There are affluent areas in all states and all regions of the country.. This debate is more so about regional identity and the age long debate of whether or not certain Mid Atlantic states are considered part of the Northeast region or not.
It isn't totally baseless, but for a lot of people it is the main characteristic of being Northeastern.

Borders the former middle colonies + affluent = Northeastern.

Some even go as far as suggesting that western New York and western Pennsylvania aren't Northeastern, but Maryland and DC are.
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:53 PM
 
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Really? Because New Jersey is quite literally more southern than Connecticut in geographic location and as far as I can see culture too. Logically It would not be considered as northeastern as Connecticut. Just like most people seem to consider Delaware less northeastern than New Jersey, and Virginia is considered less northeastern than Delaware. Makes sense to me.
... No. It's not about location as much as history and culture. Northern NJ and the southwestern corner of CT are both part of the NYC metro region. We have the same media market, same sports teams. Both those from CT and NJ commute to NYC and hang out in NYC. We share a culture. It's the "tri-state area." Same goes for Philly and most of South Jersey. NJ and PA have always been the southernmost Northern/Northeastern states. DE, MD, and definitely VA have been considered Southern for centuries, until recently when the DC area was brought into question. Both MD and DE were border states during the Civil War, not solidly Northern or Southern. They were Union but had been slave states and MD in particular was kept under martial law, really to protect DC in case MD DID secede. There is nothing Southern about NJ culture, or even PA. Nothing.
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Old 04-08-2015, 06:59 PM
 
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... No. It's not about location as much as history and culture. Northern NJ and the southwestern corner of CT are both part of the NYC metro region. We have the same media market, same sports teams. Both those from CT and NJ commute to NYC and hang out in NYC. We share a culture. It's the "tri-state area." Same goes for Philly and most of South Jersey. NJ and PA have always been the southernmost Northern/Northeastern states. DE, MD, and definitely VA have been considered Southern for centuries, until recently when the DC area was brought into question. Both MD and DE were border states during the Civil War, not solidly Northern or Southern. They were Union but had been slave states and MD in particular was kept under martial law, really to protect DC in case MD DID secede. There is nothing Southern about NJ culture, or even PA. Nothing.
Ok, but New Jersey still isn't as northeastern as Massachussetts culturally or geographically. I even heard that New Jersey had slavery until the end of the civil war, never voted for Abraham Lincoln, and was more opposed to the amendment to end slavery than any other state. Actually looking up Maryland abolished slavery by popular vote and voted for Abraham Lincoln, but Delaware mirrored New Jersey. Massachussets abolished slavery in the 1700's and New Jersey was still pro-slavery until it's hand was forced by the federal government, so that doesn't sound as northeastern to me. Going by those rules Maryland is probably more northeastern than New Jersey. Just saying lol it doesn't all add up, even if we totally discard geography I think New Jersey is more southern than Massachussetts.
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Old 04-08-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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Ok, but New Jersey still isn't as northeastern as Massachussetts culturally or geographically. I even heard that New Jersey had slavery until the end of the civil war, never voted for Abraham Lincoln, and was more opposed to the amendment to end slavery than any other state. Actually looking up Maryland abolished slavery by popular vote and voted for Abraham Lincoln, but Delaware mirrored New Jersey. Massachussets abolished slavery in the 1700's and New Jersey was still pro-slavery until it's hand was forced by the federal government, so that doesn't sound as northeastern to me. Going by those rules Maryland is probably more northeastern than New Jersey. Just saying lol it doesn't all add up, even if we totally discard geography I think New Jersey is more southern than Massachussetts.
Yes it is. NJ had like 12 slaves in 1860. Wow. 12. Slavery had begun to phase out, by law, in the beginning of the century. It was gradual abolition. NJ voted for Lincoln in 1860. DE and MD did not. NJ elected McClellan in 1864 - a general in the Union Army and later our governor.

I think you're trolling right now... You have no clue what you're talking about. About Maryland, New Jersey, or the Northeast. Or America it seems. What doesn't "add up" is your logic.
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Old 04-08-2015, 07:09 PM
 
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... No. It's not about location as much as history and culture. Northern NJ and the southwestern corner of CT are both part of the NYC metro region. We have the same media market, same sports teams. Both those from CT and NJ commute to NYC and hang out in NYC. We share a culture. It's the "tri-state area." Same goes for Philly and most of South Jersey. NJ and PA have always been the southernmost Northern/Northeastern states. DE, MD, and definitely VA have been considered Southern for centuries, until recently when the DC area was brought into question. Both MD and DE were border states during the Civil War, not solidly Northern or Southern. They were Union but had been slave states and MD in particular was kept under martial law, really to protect DC in case MD DID secede. There is nothing Southern about NJ culture, or even PA. Nothing.
Come on NOTHING? Of course New Jersey isn't a southern state but saying NOTHING is Southern about new Jersey? It's not like we are talking about Afghanistan here. There is something southern about every state in the union. New Jersey is only a short drive from Virginia look at a map, do you think that going to the south is like a different country or something?
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Old 04-08-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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Come on NOTHING? Of course New Jersey isn't a southern state but saying NOTHING is Southern about new Jersey? It's not like we are talking about Afghanistan here. There is something southern about every state in the union. New Jersey is only a short drive from Virginia look at a map, do you think that going to the south is like a different country or something?
Nothing. There is nothing "Southern" about every state. What kind of claim is that? Are you mistaking Southern for rural or country? Because every state has rural/country areas, but not every state is culturally Southern.

The fact that I even have to explain this to you people is sad. Go back to school.
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