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Old 05-21-2015, 06:50 PM
 
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It just seems like a bizarre place when you lived in an East Coast/Midwestern dense metropolis all your life and then you go to LA and it's just this giant sprawled out blob.
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Old 05-21-2015, 07:48 PM
 
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L.A is the most envious city in America bar none, Maybe it's Hollywood fault.Maybe New yorkers feels threatened by the position of Los Angeles & that's why it's so hated,Love it or Hate it but Los Angeles & California are the best places to be by far,Best weather, women,food, tropical scenery,world class metro ,what more can a person want for it's city ?

There's nothing suburban about Downtown L.A,Santa monica, Hollywood, Wilshire ,Century city,etc etc
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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L.A is the most envious city in America bar none, Maybe it's Hollywood fault.Maybe New yorkers feels threatened by the position of Los Angeles & that's why it's so hated,Love it or Hate it but Los Angeles & California are the best places to be by far,Best weather, women,food, tropical scenery,world class metro ,what more can a person want for it's city ?

There's nothing suburban about Downtown L.A,Santa monica, Hollywood, Wilshire ,Century city,etc etc
Besides LA's weather (save for the drought), it seems like most people really only envy NYC, especially on these forums. NYC tends to be the rule of thumb on this website more often than not in terms of city planning.
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:08 PM
 
Location: LBC
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Really ? More urban ? Show me anywhere more dense and more urban in LA (outside the suburban sprawl) that is more urban then MIA?

It doesn't matter how densely packed places outside of the core is the fact remains : it's apart of sprawl - traffic, congestion, strip malls.

Downtown LA's main core isn't even the main hub in LA which is pathetic compared to MIA, it's downtown is just a joke for it's size.

Here I'll just present you with some facts : Los Angeles Downtown (main hub) population per sq mile = 4,770

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...ensity&es_th=1
No kidding. I just informed you of that fact-and spoon-fed you the source- after you yourself went out of your way to single out downtown LA as "urban". Remember that? It was one page ago.
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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Really ? More urban ? Show me anywhere more dense and more urban in LA (outside the suburban sprawl) that is more urban then MIA?

It doesn't matter how densely packed places outside of the core is the fact remains : it's apart of sprawl - traffic, congestion, strip malls.

Downtown LA's main core isn't even the main hub in LA which is pathetic compared to MIA, it's downtown is just a joke for it's size.

Here I'll just present you with some facts : Los Angeles Downtown (main hub) population per sq mile = 4,770

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...ensity&es_th=1

Miami downtown (main hub) population per sq mile = 27,487 (2010)

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...ensity&es_th=1

Make sense now ?
-Doesn't most of that Downtown density in Miami come from condos? Not especially vibrant IMO.

-The numbers for DTLA are from the 2000 census, the population has since doubled. More than half of the freeway loop is industrial, which means the majority of DTLA's 53,000 residents live in a 2.5 sq mile area.

-Westlake/Koreatown/E. Hollywood/Hollywood = 11 sq miles, population 370,000, 33k ppsm.



-That's the entire population of the city of Miami in 11 sq miles, with nearly 3x the density. There's no comparison between the two cores in terms of size, density, and urbanity.
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:11 PM
 
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Well that's your opinion sir,In all my life living in Los Angeles i never heard anybody bash N.y.c or even cared about it,Plus more New yorkers move to Los Angeles than the other way around but L.A is clearly the most hated/envied city on here.

Look at how many cities vs L.A threads there are ,It's out of hand but like i said people feel threatened by the position of Los Angeles & are upset at all the attention it gets . ( Media )
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:13 PM
 
Location: LBC
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Doesn't most of that Downtown density in Miami come from condos? Not especially vibrant IMO.

The numbers for DTLA are from the 2000 census, the population has since doubled. More than half of the freeway loop is industrial, which means the majority of DTLA's 53,000 residents live in a 2.5 sq mile area.

Westlake/Koreatown/E. Hollywood/Hollywood = 11 sq miles, population 370,000, 33k ppsm.

That's the entire population of the city of Miami in 11 sq miles, with nearly 3x the density.
There's no comparison between the two cores in terms of size, density, and urbanity.
You really think simple math is going to work?
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:20 PM
 
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It's more people in California and Los Angeles than what any census tells you due to the huge amount of uncounted immigrants.

People talk on Los Angeles but never even been out here,Manhattan is very very small compared to Los Angeles & i was shocked at how tiny it was when i visited. Still it has higher density due to it being a vertical built city wity people packed in apartments on top of each other where in L.A things are more spread out evenly & more normal, ,No terrible accent or dirty weather & rats everywhere, Than again you gotta Love the things that make New york what it is .

Both of the Greatest cities in American history though.
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Old 05-21-2015, 08:28 PM
 
Location: LBC
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It just seems like a bizarre place when you lived in an East Coast/Midwestern dense metropolis all your life and then you go to LA and it's just this giant sprawled out blob.
"Bizarre blob" is fair, IMO. But calling it a suburb is like a 90 year-old equating the internet to a series of tubes.
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:04 PM
 
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Discussion of polycentric cities.
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