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Old 05-19-2016, 10:14 PM
 
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What are the best cities west of Denver to meet men who are:

- in good shape
- driven
- educated
- clean cut
- not religious
- not focused on settling down early in life (i.e. 30-50 years old with no kids)

All of us single ladies are awaiting responses
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Old 05-20-2016, 07:39 AM
 
Location: West of the Rockies
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Lol that would be pretty much any city west of Denver, with a bold on the "not focused on settling down early in life." The western cities are eternal neverlands for unambitious, childless adults.
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Old 05-20-2016, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Lol that would be pretty much any city west of Denver, with a bold on the "not focused on settling down early in life." The western cities are eternal neverlands for unambitious, childless adults.
That kind of contradicts several of OP's bullet points; it's hard to be unambitious, but also educated, clean cut, and in shape. I do agree that folks like you describe reside in the West in spades.


That being said, OP, Boulder is as good a place to start as any.
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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What about LA, San Francisco?
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Old 05-20-2016, 09:52 AM
 
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Sounds like the LA party scene is for you?
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:31 PM
 
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Lol that would be pretty much any city west of Denver, with a bold on the "not focused on settling down early in life." The western cities are eternal neverlands for unambitious, childless adults.
Your breeder bias is showing.
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Old 05-20-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Seattle has a flood of single, outdoorsy men who are computer programmers. I myself am in a relationship, but nearly all of my friends here fit the profile that I just described.
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Old 05-20-2016, 08:15 PM
 
Location: West of the Rockies
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That kind of contradicts several of OP's bullet points; it's hard to be unambitious, but also educated, clean cut, and in shape. I do agree that folks like you describe reside in the West in spades.


That being said, OP, Boulder is as good a place to start as any.
Well, that's the problem. Unforunately many child-free adults are NOT educated or clean cut.

But Seattle and San Francisco may have more child free, educated adults who make high incomes compared to the rest of the country. A lot of them are gay people, though. (Yes, I know LGBT can have kids but they still have them at lesser rates than straights)
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:21 AM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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Does West of Denver still include Denver?

You want to find an educated metro and you should be good to go. It's easy to dodge Mormonville areas (where there culture means to marry early and have kids) so obviously don't look at Utah. That's about the only possible issue for that out here.

I suggest looking into the more blue areas of the West, while religion is less pronounced out here, there are still many religious people. They just aren't in your face about or bringing God up in conversation. I noticed that as one of the first big cultural difference in New Orleans compared to Arizona. A lot more people wearing crosses, etc. Here in the red Arizona Christians are still a heavy majority, I say that as an atheist so I tend to notice religious influence more as I dislike it. I found in my travels that visiting blue areas tend to have more agnostics and atheists. While I know quite a few people out here who share my viewpoint in that regard, I'd say it's an 8 out of 10 or more are religious.

My issue with men out here is they don't seem to have ambition and don't want to pursue education. As a college student, most men I meet out of class are doing something like U of P or are in the military, or are in "community college" for a few years (meaning they take a lot of semesters off to do minimum wage). I hope most Western metros aren't like that as well for young men.
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Old 05-21-2016, 09:42 AM
 
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Does West of Denver still include Denver?

You want to find an educated metro and you should be good to go. It's easy to dodge Mormonville areas (where there culture means to marry early and have kids) so obviously don't look at Utah. That's about the only possible issue for that out here.

I suggest looking into the more blue areas of the West, while religion is less pronounced out here, there are still many religious people. They just aren't in your face about or bringing God up in conversation. I noticed that as one of the first big cultural difference in New Orleans compared to Arizona. A lot more people wearing crosses, etc. Here in the red Arizona Christians are still a heavy majority, I say that as an atheist so I tend to notice religious influence more as I dislike it. I found in my travels that visiting blue areas tend to have more agnostics and atheists. While I know quite a few people out here who share my viewpoint in that regard, I'd say it's an 8 out of 10 or more are religious.

My issue with men out here is they don't seem to have ambition and don't want to pursue education. As a college student, most men I meet out of class are doing something like U of P or are in the military, or are in "community college" for a few years (meaning they take a lot of semesters off to do minimum wage). I hope most Western metros aren't like that as well for young men.
Yeah, I'd include Denver. Basically, anything west of where the moisture levels drop and the climate gets drier (which would be a line running down from central North Dakota to Austin, TX) is part of the West IMO.

Your best bet in any western city is going to be an IT worker. IT is a popular industry in western cities, because many developers and other IT employees can work from home. They actually have time and money to enjoy all the recreation that makes western cities so appealing. Otherwise, most western metros still don't have the level of civilization that the East Coast does, so they don't have an abundance of middle class jobs and when they do, these jobs are 3x more competitive because so many people want to live out west. Despite the liberal politics of many western cities, there is a huge wealth gap between the upper class (often very, very upper class) and the underclass of vagrants, migrant workers, and hipsters who make $15/hr as a barista.

To me, western cities are really just vacation spots that should be viewed as luxury living/wealthy retirement destinations. They are simply too expensive and not populated/civilized enough for the average American, and the extent of civilization that does exist out West tends to be extremely cliquely and exclusive. Since you aren't looking to have children now, it may not be a problem for you. But for most American adults who aspire to have a family, a strong social network, and a sense of community, the western cities are not practical unless you fall into one of the categories of people I described above. People out West obsess more about living up to a certain image, so you have to make sure you can achieve that image if you're going to live out there and make friends. People out East are more concerned with getting by in practical, day to day living.

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