Are there any cities that don't really have really bad neighborhoods but lots of marginal, dumpy areas? (foreclosures, violent crime)
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Seattle has no ghettos. Seem goes for Portland. Probably cleanest major cities in this country.
Salt Lake City was probably the cleanest major city I've seen. Denver was also pretty clean but the area acutally looks mostly rather well-kept and middle class.
Seattle has no ghetto. The worst neighborhood is probably the Rainier Valley, which is gentrifying quite rapidly. There are low-income housing projects there, but they are laughably lux compared to the hoods in places like Baltimore or Philadelphia.
Seattle does have an area called Belltown with scruffy looking people hanging around.
Lot of big cities that have few ghetto's like Denver, Seattle, Salt Lake City, San Diego, San Antonio but I am used to Midwest and Southern cities that are so bad like Memphis, Detroit, St. Louis, Chicago, New Orleans, Atlanta that not many of the Western and Eastern cities that have ghetto's do not look bad in comparison.
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San Diego, El Paso, and Denver. All 3 have significant dumpy looking areas but are among the safest big cities in the country with nothing close to resembling a real ghetto.
I agree in many respects but Denver has a much, much higher violent crime rate then San Diego and I believe it is also much more violent then El Paso.
Many people move to Denver from out of state and the neighborhood looks really nice so they buy a house there only to discover that the neighborhood has extremely high crime rates.
I have not that spent much time in San Diego but been there many times and it seems like the areas look rougher then they are based on the ultra-low city violent crime rate. Denver on the other hand has less gritty looking areas then San Diego in my opinion, but many move to Denver and rent or buy a home and are surprised by how rough the neighborhood really is.
Rough neighborhoods though by Denver or San Diego don't look anything remotely like rough areas in some other cities though. Neither city has any thing remotely close to the abandonment or grit of other some cities across the country.
Denver and San Diego are fairly similar in that regard. Lots of nice areas but also more marginal looking areas then one would expect, but both cities marginal areas are still expensive.
Denver though has about twice the violent crime of San Diego and usually two or three times the homicide rate of San Diego.
I believe El Paso, Texas also has far lower violent crime and homicide rates then Denver.
Denver homicide and violent crime rate is usually very, very similar to Los Angeles, Phoenix and Tucson.
Denver is not in the league as far as San Diego, El Paso, Portland or Seattle's low violent crime rates. Of course, Denver as a whole has only a fraction of the issues of certain cities in other parts of the country but it is certainly not in the same league on safety as San Diego when it comes to a low violent crime rate.
If memory serves me right usually San Diego and El Paso, TX have around 3 homicides per 100,000 residents and Denver is around 8 homicides per 100,000 residents.
It does seem like unlike other cities, Denver has seen increasing violent crime and homicide rates with it's gentrification and rapidly rising real estate prices.
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Naples is kind of a unique case. At 12 square miles and 20,000 people it's really only a city in the technical sense. However, it of course is a huge tourist/snowbird destination and the center of a rapidly growing county in which a lot of people live in unincorporated areas.
In Collier County Golden Gate, parts of East Naples and Immokalee aren't exactly places most people would want to live or feel safe but are child's play compared to what goes on Fort Myers or the Miami area.
I think Huntington, West Virginia probably fits this. There is no true ghetto like Baltimore or Detroit but most of it is kinda run down though there are some very good neighborhoods. Huntington physically looks less pleasant than Charleston even though it has some very nice suburban areas, for example Teays Valley and Barboursville are part of the Huntington metro area. By WV standards Huntington is very crime-ridden but its safe compared to national standards.
Orlando seems to have very economically mixed areas just about everywhere, other than the newer suburban neighborhoods. There doesn't seem to be a critical mass of severely blighted communities anywhere, although there are plenty of lower income parts - possibly a side effect of the area being more transient and integrated than most of the country. From my understanding there is statistically a high crime rate, but few areas are visibly that bad.
Seattle has no ghetto. The worst neighborhood is probably the Rainier Valley, which is gentrifying quite rapidly. There are low-income housing projects there, but they are laughably lux compared to the hoods in places like Baltimore or Philadelphia.
You're comparing Seattle, an isolated post-war settlement, to some of the oldest cities in America, literally 200 years older, that are also 3x Seattle's size (Philadelphia).
I'd take Philadelphia, 10/10 times and Seattle is one of my favorite cities (for different reasons).
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