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Old 06-05-2019, 04:13 PM
 
Location: West Seattle
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Wait - did you accidentally flip what you meant in that last sentence?
Yeah, I must've lol.
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:47 PM
 
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That's associated more with culture than character it seems. For instance, Austin has a definitive brand and and culture, but I don't think many would say the city has a lot of character in terms of the built environment. On the other hand, a city like Richmond has lots of character but isn't really known for its local culture and doesn't have a distinct brand.
We could go down a black hole for hours on the nature of branding, but since brand is cultivated, it cuts across one of or both of character and culture, and depending on the branding objective, may focus on one aspect more than the other. To your point, Austin's brand is very culture focused, as is Portland, Las Vegas, family-friendly enclaves like and many other places. But some places do brand heavily around character: the steep mountains of Breckenridge, the climate of Phoenix, the white sand beaches of Destin, etc. etc.

Some cities have an easy time branding both (a marketer's dream haha), NYC has the unique nature of endless skyscrapers in Manhattan and the NYC culture, Miami has its unique vibe and the beautiful beaches.
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Old 06-06-2019, 07:20 AM
 
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We could go down a black hole for hours on the nature of branding, but since brand is cultivated, it cuts across one of or both of character and culture, and depending on the branding objective, may focus on one aspect more than the other. To your point, Austin's brand is very culture focused, as is Portland, Las Vegas, family-friendly enclaves like and many other places. But some places do brand heavily around character: the steep mountains of Breckenridge, the climate of Phoenix, the white sand beaches of Destin, etc. etc.

Some cities have an easy time branding both (a marketer's dream haha), NYC has the unique nature of endless skyscrapers in Manhattan and the NYC culture, Miami has its unique vibe and the beautiful beaches.
Yep, you do have a point!
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Old 06-06-2019, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Most of the USA today has very little culture, especially in larger metro areas.
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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Most of the USA today has very little culture, especially in larger metro areas.
What? You mean you don't like the homogenization of large US cities by the same corporate whores like Starbucks and Chipotle?

Your city is one of the worst offenders too. My condolences.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:21 AM
 
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Most of the USA today has very little culture, especially in larger metro areas.
That's the price you pay for prosperity.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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That's the price you pay for prosperity.
Meta question: can you even call it "prosperity" if the cost is so great?
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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Meta question: can you even call it "prosperity" if the cost is so great?
If it decreases crime, increases school ratings, provides a larger tax base to not have potholes and clean sidewalks I would say so. It's an unfortunate circumstance but it's obvious where the chipotle's, starbuck's, whole foods, trader joes etc.. are choosing NOT to go to.

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Old 06-06-2019, 11:29 AM
 
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If it decreases crime, increases school ratings, provides a larger tax base to not have potholes and clean sidewalks I would say so. It's an unfortunately circumstance but it's obvious where the chipotle's, starbuck's, whole foods, trader joes etc.. are choosing NOT to go to.
I think that's the end product once the "prosperity" formula is figured out. However lame it may be. I'd still rather have the culture and character of New Orleans than something vapid like Dallas.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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I think that's the end product once the "prosperity" formula is figured out. However lame it may be. I'd still rather have the culture and character of New Orleans than something vapid like Dallas.
I get ya but places like New Orleans have too much poverty, crime and crumbling structures for living for me. I'd rather live in the boring Whole foods zone and visit New Orleans.
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