Will DFW surpass Chicagoland as the third largest metro? (buy, price)
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DFW tried to become number 3???
Chicago tries to make the city all dense???
NO! You can as if each city has its own master plan to out do the other....
By the way...that is NOT Dallas Fort worth...that's Los Angeles...
Houston's Clear Thinkers: In defense of urban sprawl (http://blog.kir.com/archives/002561.asp - broken link)
Check your photos next time before you look like a fool.
Aurora shares a small part of the the same county...there in the same metropolitan area, either that or Chicago's metropolitan area is NOT 9 Million.
Yeah....Chicago is real dense...
With the 'dense' part of Chicago in the distance...
I never said DFW wasn't sprawl, and I'm not objecting to Chicago being denser... There are however Denser parts of DFW.
I was originally attacking you for posting manipulated data and ignorant statements... such as "DFW will NEVER pass Chicago"
And the the idea that you rejected DFW as a metropolitan area...
Most of the area between Dallas and Fort Worth is developed, what isn't belongs to DFW international Airport.
now your trying to be passive aggressive. you said the "dense" part of Chicago, meaning your sarcastic, but now your arguing that you don't think it is not dense?
and i never said the picture was DFW, i said this would be your typical DFW neighborhood. Now who looks like the fool?
Well I suppose so, but seeing as you've never been here you really don't have any room to say something like that...I know you've never been here because:
The only parts that look that sprawled out is towards the outer part of DFW.
Houses don't have half a mile between each other...Your 'typical Chicago neighborhood' is roughly what a Dallas neighborhood looks like as well.
When i put 'denser' in quotations, i was intending to mock you because you speak as if Chicago was all like Downtown Chicago...which may I remind you...is not the case.
Your 'typical Chicago neighborhood' is roughly what a Dallas neighborhood looks like as well.
When i put 'denser' in quotations, i was intending to mock you because you speak as if Chicago was all like Downtown Chicago...which may I remind you...is not the case.
I dunno, Chicago's burbs sprawl, but the 3 million people living in the city cover a LOT of land with quite dense housing. It's 237 square miles of density in the city. Only a few pockets on the southwest and northwest side are more typical with houses and side yards.
I have no doubt that Chicago is denser than Dallas, or even more beautiful architecturally.
That wasn't why I was 'fighting'
Really? You've never said Chicago isn't dense? What about this remark:
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Originally Posted by CMDallas
When i put 'denser' in quotations, i was intending to mock you because you speak as if Chicago was all like Downtown Chicago...which may I remind you...is not the case.
Your credibility, is gone. You go back and forth too much. Obviously DFW will continue to grow, but no where near the rate it has been. The housing markets too bad right now. Chicago will continue to grow as well, and there is no way that DFW will have 9,800,000 people within the next couple of decades.
I think DFW gets passed up by Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, or even Minneapolis before it passes Chicago...You also seem to rule on one huge factor. If there is a huge demand for an area, prices of housing go up, meaning its not as cheap to live their anymore. It becomes just as expensive as New York, L.A, and Chicago.
Your credibility, is gone. You go back and forth too much. Obviously DFW will continue to grow, but no where near the rate it has been. The housing markets too bad right now. Chicago will continue to grow as well, and there is no way that DFW will have 9,800,000 people within the next couple of decades.
I think DFW gets passed up by Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, or even Minneapolis before it passes Chicago...You also seem to rule on one huge factor. If there is a huge demand for an area, prices of housing go up, meaning its not as cheap to live their anymore. It becomes just as expensive as New York, L.A, and Chicago.
You think cities only grow because of one market? Did you ever think of the job market? The cost of living? DFW continues to grow even with the credit crunch. Now, will DFW slow down, more than likely yes. But it will continue to sustain a healthy growth because of it's aggressiveness to create jobs and to bring more jobs to the area. There is also space in the area for it to continue to grow. The city of Dallas is now starting to attract residents again.
What part did you not understand when I said that Boston is already ahead of Dallas? Did you not see me say that Washington-Baltimore is already ahead of Dallas as well? Baltimore metro and Boston metro itself will not surpass DFW at anytime.
Please don't compare NYC to Chicago. They are completely different. Chicago is the best US Cosmopolitan city while NYC is USA's best International City. They have totally diff. vibes.
I love Dallas. Again not comparable to NYC or Chicago. But Dallas is not for everyone.
Thank you!! There is always those who want to compare Chicago and NYC and I think the way you characterize the cities was on target.
You think cities only grow because of one market? Did you ever think of the job market? The cost of living? DFW continues to grow even with the credit crunch. Now, will DFW slow down, more than likely yes. But it will continue to sustain a healthy growth because of it's aggressiveness to create jobs and to bring more jobs to the area. There is also space in the area for it to continue to grow. The city of Dallas is now starting to attract residents again.
What part did you not understand when I said that Boston is already ahead of Dallas? Did you not see me say that Washington-Baltimore is already ahead of Dallas as well? Baltimore metro and Boston metro itself will not surpass DFW at anytime.
I don't understand what you're trying to say. DFW's growth decreased a lot because of the poor housing market. Its going to take at least ten years before the market was at where it was in late 2006, right before the crash. Anyway, I never said cities grow on one market, I'm saying you need a large amount of white collar jobs for a city to grow. If you took away all the Commercial Office jobs out of Chicago, It would NOT even be on the map. The industrial Chicago failed terribly in the 1950's, resulting in a massive population loss. Now, the new Chicago (based mainly on Commercial Office jobs) is thriving again. So Chicago, is essentially growing on one type of market.
Okay, back to my first point you said that Boston is already ahead of Dallas, and changed to DFW is larger than Boston and Baltimore-DC. It may have been a typo but I'm confused. Anyway, DFW will grow, but not to a 10 million plus one. Its sooooo sprawled out that its just going to come back to hurt them. It may end up like L.A. Poor planning leads to poor efficiency, and commuters sit in 2 hours of traffic going to work, and coming home.
Here is what I think DFW looks like number wise compared to Chicago:
DFW- 8,000,000-9,000,000
Chicago - somewhere near 11 million.
It may be more put who knows. And if you think Chicago is too high, in 2000 the metro was 8,000,000, now its 9,800,000. DFW maybe be a little higher, or lower. Depending on how things work out for it
Really? You've never said Chicago isn't dense? What about this remark:
Your credibility, is gone. You go back and forth too much. Obviously DFW will continue to grow, but no where near the rate it has been. The housing markets too bad right now. Chicago will continue to grow as well, and there is no way that DFW will have 9,800,000 people within the next couple of decades.
I think DFW gets passed up by Philadelphia, Boston, Baltimore, or even Minneapolis before it passes Chicago...You also seem to rule on one huge factor. If there is a huge demand for an area, prices of housing go up, meaning its not as cheap to live their anymore. It becomes just as expensive as New York, L.A, and Chicago.
ARE YOU SERIOUS???
JUST SHUT UP, now you are just being a troll.
how does that remark disprove my 2nd statement???
I said I have no doubt Dallas is not as Dense as Chicago, correct?
then you threw the fact i said that YOU though Chicago was this dense dense city like downtwon Chicago...except the whole metropolitan area.
My credibility is still here, I've had my credibility and I try to be unbiased and I fail greatly, but I try...but you??? you have no shame in being arrogant...
You don't prove your point and when I nail you to the wall with face and quote contradicting yourself you refuse to respond, and when I bring it up you act as if you have no Idea what I'm talking about...
and example:
I told you a page back that you posed unfair figures... and you don't know what I'm talking about until I point out spade called you out on it...then you refuse to respond. Then you bring up totally insignificant factors like the density of the metropolitan areas...
Sir, if anybodies' credibility is gone, it is yours... I do not care if Minneapolis or Philadelphia passes Dallas.
But I do care that you make these stupid arrogant remarks about things you know absolutely nothing about.
I don't hate Chicago, and I don't thin DFW will pass Chicago by 2020, but I do think IT WILL... at the rate of growth...
The job market here...is amongst the best in the nation
The price of land and gas is cheaper then Los Angeles and NYC
We have nothing blocking our way to become a more sprawled out metropolitan area unlike NYC and Los Angeles.
I doubt you will take any of my words to heart, as you find them insulting...and I would too...but please at least and try to analyaze your flaws?
No one is perfect...trust me I will tooo...
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