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Old 03-08-2019, 05:55 AM
 
Location: California
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It's funny how secular New Engkand is now because at one point it was very religious. Back in the purtian era New England was more religious than the south.
Rhode Island is and always has been very religious.
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Old 03-08-2019, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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It's funny how secular New Engkand is now because at one point it was very religious. Back in the purtian era New England was more religious than the south.

They still are religious; they just swapped the Christian religion for the one where something whacky like the Green New Deal seems like a good idea.
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Old 03-08-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I have some friends from western Oregon who lived for a while in West Virginia and Kentucky and have also traveled to NC and SC. They are conservative Republicans and politically and religiously they were more at home in the South. (they had their Hummer vandalized in Portland by global warming radicals....) However they also complained about the lack of good coffee and were shocked at the lack of bike lanes and were not used to the relatively sunny winters (relative to Oregon).

Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington don't have a voice politically, probably even less so than upstate NY or downstate Illinois.
If their Hummer was vandalized by global warning warming radicals it was more of a political act rather an anti-religion one. it may not have even been political though. Many long time residents resented the display of wealth, especially by newcomers, by taking it out on their cars. That why newcomers to Portland are often warned of they have such vehicles to put them in a garage of other safe place.

The more my former Portland neighborhood became gentrified, the higher the car vandalism rate.
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Old 03-08-2019, 05:11 PM
 
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The biggest difference is that really along the entire West Coast people tend not to bring religion into the conversation. There are still plenty of churches and some people with a strong religious affiliation, though.

Also, I can't say I've seen any difference in LA, the Bay Area, and the Portland and Seattle metro areas. They're all very similar in that regard. Eastern WA and the Central Valley in CA are a different story.
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Old 03-08-2019, 05:15 PM
 
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They still are religious; they just swapped the Christian religion for the one where something whacky like the Green New Deal seems like a good idea.
Views based on science and logic aren't the same as views based on blind faith.
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Old 03-08-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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Eastern Oregon and Eastern Washington don't have a voice politically, probably even less so than upstate NY or downstate Illinois.
I'd have to disagree re: Eastern Washington. Lawmakers from that area do have an influence on state-level politics. The WA State legislature was actually controlled by Republicans until just last year. Eastern Washington is the reason Washington is one of the few states without a state income tax.

Eastern Oregon doesn't have a voice politically because very few people live there.
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Old 03-08-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Northern Virginia
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Views based on science and logic aren't the same as views based on blind faith.

I don't argue with religious people about their faith.
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:09 PM
 
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You know how Democrats always win all of NY's electoral votes just because of New York City? Or how both New York Senators are Democrats??? And how New York City forced the new abortion law statewide? Most of New York state I hear is deep red but statewide politics are dominated by liberals, including the governor. Cuomo probably can be elected again on NYC votes alone. Okay 8.5 million live in upstate New YOrk, but over 15 million live in the NYC area including Westchester (home of many liberal elites) and Long Island and they outnumbered upstate.
Take a look at this map. Four of those blue counties you see on it are the four most populous Upstate counties (the counties where Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse and Albany are) The red counties are all rural and sparsely populated.

https://www.politico.com/2016-electi...dent/new-york/
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:51 PM
 
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I don't argue with religious people about their faith.
Good approach. I don't either, unless they ask me mine and try to debate.
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Old 03-08-2019, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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Here's the Bible Belt:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../BibleBelt.png

If it doesn't open, it extends from the southern half of VA to all of MO, down to all of TX except the southern and western tips, to the northern half of FL (except far southern LA) and everything in between.
This is not the "bible belt." This is a map of where the Baptist church is the predominate church. Which illustrates my point that the term is nothing more than pejorative description of the geography of the baptist denomination.
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