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I agree, that the South definitely has an outsized impact on the West. In my honest opinion, Tejano and Texan culture in general is definitely more Southern than anything else when talking regional culture. Now you can argue Texas is it's own cultural region, which is a valid argument but 80-90% of the state population wise definitely fits within the South. I know quite a few of those Anglo-Tejano folk who come from South/Central Texas (White folks with Mexican Names, Mexican folk with White last names etcetera.), and if they came from a small town they almost instantly struck me as very Southern. Not quite San Antonio but just outside it, in between Austin and San Antonio, just hear the accent of the folks in the video. Nothing strikes me as even being remotely Southwestern. Which by definition would make SA a Southern city.
I would not consider it "south" in ways that some folks like to define the term. It may have had some southern aspects in its history but not much today. The "old families" might be hanging on or pretending to be southern if it suits them but that is not all that relevent. The place seems to more strongly embrace its Hispanic roots. Waco seems more southern to me.
You have a right to your opinion but in all honesty I don't hear people in San Antonio repping the "Southern Pride".
What I do hear a lot of is "San Anto" and "Texas" pride.As a matter fact I think I've only seen seen someone fly the Confederate flag here twice and that was back in the early 90s.
Me neither. Again could be Houston bias but unless you live West of I-35. I hear Southern pride, everyday even in Austin. In fact my old middle Eastern neighbor who's a bit whitewashed has a Confederate flag displayed in his house. On the flip side their is massive Southern pride within Minorities. even something like the Rodeo in Houston is seen as a Southern event even though it's culturally more "Southwestern". I don't know about others but I definitely have a larger view of the South than most people.
I consider all of Florida, Oklahoma, Arkansas, most of Virginia, basically all of Texas, as Southern. The state i'm most conflicted on is Missouri, Tennesee is obviously South as well.
Basically if you have a large semi-rural black population the Southern culture stands out.
For example have you heard anyone from Lockhart which is just outside the Austin Area. Or Bastrop or Taylor, definitely a southern twang.
Also agree, wholeheartedly with you on Miami. While Soundcloud rap (which has heavy Florida/South Florida origins) doesn't have as heavy an accent. Miami Youtubers/Influencers tend to have a heavy Southern accent. Something about the word "jit", screams Southern too me.
Rodeos are NOT a Southern thing but a Western/Texas-Tejano/Mexican thing.Im not sure why you're mentioning your Houston bias but this thread is about San Antonio and if it's Southern or not.
DFW is the only large metro in Texas that’s in the Bible Belt. Sometimes I wonder why Dallasits are the most embarrassed of their southern roots. Including Austin
They arent.
People are just sick of others telling them what they are.
I was originally going to ask this question in the Texas forum,but the more I thought about it,I believe it was better to ask this here in this forum to get more of a national consensus as far as answers go.So,the thread title says it all.Do you or don't you?
Rodeos are NOT a Southern thing but a Western/Texas-Tejano/Mexican thing.Im not sure why you're mentioning your Houston bias but this thread is about San Antonio and if it's Southern or not.
I didn’t say they are. I said they’ve been co-opted by the South. Country is easily the most popular genre of music at the Houston Rodeo and seems similar in videos fo other Rodeos I’ve been to, while theirs pop and rap acts, they make up much less of a splash unless the pop act is literally Drake. I said Houston bias because I’m from Houston, and in my eyes a much larger portion of the state is Southern than someone from El Paso, because I see the extensive similarities to Houston throughout most of the state and subconsciously attach that to Southern culture.
Again- it’s still opinion based but look at this Dialect map. It doesn’t even put San Antonio in the inland South but clearly in the South for dialect purposes. Like many others here have been saying the only place in Texas where they don’t speak like Southerners is El Paso....
I didn’t say they are. I said they’ve been co-opted by the South. Country is easily the most popular genre of music at the Houston Rodeo and seems similar in videos fo other Rodeos I’ve been to, while theirs pop and rap acts, they make up much less of a splash unless the pop act is literally Drake. I said Houston bias because I’m from Houston, and in my eyes a much larger portion of the state is Southern than someone from El Paso, because I see the extensive similarities to Houston throughout most of the state and subconsciously attach that to Southern culture.
Again- it’s still opinion based but look at this Dialect map. It doesn’t even put San Antonio in the inland South but clearly in the South for dialect purposes. Like many others here have been saying the only place in Texas where they don’t speak like Southerners is El Paso....
So whats the difference between an Inland South and Lowland South dialect?
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