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The vast majority might get snow sometimes, but not Midwest-style.
Meh. Midwest is too big to really say that. Spent four years in KC. They average something like 15in of snow a year. On par with some of the trumped up “sunbelt” cities at least in the northern periphery of it. Easy peasy winters IMO. Summers on the other hand are ungodly.
Snow isn’t a bad thing to me though. Shoveling can suck, depends how you look at it. I see it as a workout.
Because the difference between DC’s density and Boston’s density is the same as Atlanta and Detroit.
If Boston isn’t way denser than DC, Detroit isn’t way denser than Atlanta. Because that’s how numbers work.
Cincinnati and Dallas have neae identical density numbers. Same with Las Vegas and St Louis.
My point isn’t that DC doesn’t have a lot of federal buildings it obviously does, it’s that it isn’t this massive blob, is distributed through the city like any other central buisness district.
If there is another city where 30% of its land is federal land, I’ll retract. But as far as I can tell, there isn’t. And the Mall, WH, Smithsonian, Potomac Parks, and the Southwest Federal Center all constitute a fairly large blob of just nothing population wise. You might have 1000 people living in 3 square miles in the middle of the city.
At any rate, the point we are making is similar. The floor for Rust Belt density is the ceiling for Sun Belt density as of now.
If there is another city where 30% of its land is federal land, I’ll retract. But as far as I can tell, there isn’t. And the Mall, WH, Smithsonian, Potomac Parks, and the Southwest Federal Center all constitute a fairly large blob of just nothing population wise. You might have 1000 people living in 3 square miles in the middle of the city.
At any rate, the point we are making is similar. The floor for Rust Belt density is the ceiling for Sun Belt density as of now.
It’s not so much about federal land or not, it’s just one could disseminate pretty much any city to boost its density figures.
Sure Boston doesn’t have an equivalent to the National Mall (which is only .48 sq. miles mind you) but DC doesn’t have an international airport that “eats” into its administrative land area or a massive port complex.
So population density should be taken with a grain of salt.
In a city full of transplants, many mention weather as a benefit. But I’ve known only one person who prioritized it. She was from upstate NY and hated winter, so as a child began a campaign on her father to get him to move. She even began writing chamber of commerce’s to places down south to send pamphlets. He finally decided he had enough, so they take a weekend trip, drove 12 hours due south, liked the place, and ended up selling everything and moving down here. Fascinatingly hilarious.
Ha, that's great, and I can totally appreciate her fervor (note my location). Any idea what part of Upstate NY she was from?
It’s not so much about federal land or not, it’s just one could disseminate pretty much any city to boost its density figures.
Sure Boston doesn’t have an equivalent to the National Mall (which is only .48 sq. miles mind you) but DC doesn’t have an international airport that “eats” into its administrative land area or a massive port complex.
So population density should be taken with a grain of salt.
I really am unsure why this has become a thing. I mentioned as an aside that a large portion of DC is off limits to live, but that Boston/DC are not particularly germane to the situation. Then I’m inundated with ignoring NYC’s financial district (which has close to 200,000 people in half a square mile) and now Logan (which is closer to a real point, though again is not a third of Boston’s size).
But yes, if you wanted to say Boston : DC :: Detroit : Atlanta or whatever, go ahead. Rust Belt cities are still denser than Sun Belt cities by and large. Sun Belt cities have more room to densify.
Who cares. 90% of the sunbelt is not worth it to me. I’m just not a hot weather sort of person. Most of the sheeple that move down there are and that’s fine.
It would take some major economic pain down there for people to be motivated to move to the Rust Belt. I certainly hope that doesn’t happen in my lifetime as I’m eyeing some places in the Rust Belt for retirement and don’t want the sheeple crowding me out.
Why sheeple? You like the cold, they like the heat. Maybe they moved becuse where they are has changed too much to the downside?
I was going to post something else in regards to your sheeple comment but then I noticed you were in Seattle. I'll just chalk it up to you being a really cool woke individual.
LOL, for someone in Seattle to talk bout people moving to the Sunbelt is hypocrisy. That town's metro has more than doubled in 30 years nd the winters there aren't like those in the Midwest. Seattle is basically sunbelt town. its biggest hometown employers, like Costco, Boeing, and amazon have grown more down south than anywhere.
I really am unsure why this has become a thing. I mentioned as an aside that a large portion of DC is off limits to live, but that Boston/DC are not particularly germane to the situation. Then I’m inundated with ignoring NYC’s financial district (which has close to 200,000 people in half a square mile) and now Logan (which is closer to a real point, though again is not a third of Boston’s size).
But yes, if you wanted to say Boston : DC :: Detroit : Atlanta or whatever, go ahead. Rust Belt cities are still denser than Sun Belt cities by and large. Sun Belt cities have more room to densify.
Sure denser than Charlotte big I wouldn’t call Detroit or Cincinnati dense cities.
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