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Old 09-07-2021, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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Is there a major US city where the CBD actually touches the coast? They’re always on a bay, harbor, river, etc. I can’t think of anywhere that’s on the actual coast.
Miami comes the closest. Bays and harbors are just superior from an urban development standpoint. It’s interesting though that the two big Great Lakes cities, Chicago and Toronto, are right on their respective lakes, even though they too have their own small harbor areas.
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Old 09-07-2021, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Is there a major US city where the CBD actually touches the coast? They’re always on a bay, harbor, river, etc. I can’t think of anywhere that’s on the actual coast.
None..

As the crow flies, the closest downtown to actual ocean is SD at a hair over 2 miles from Coronado Beach.

Miami’s would be second at a shade under 4 miles to Miami Beach.

DT SF/Boston are both about ~5 miles before you hit open water (there are still a few islands about 3 miles west of Winthrop, Boston in the harbor mind you).

The tip of Manhattan is almost 12 miles from Breezy Point in Brooklyn.

DT LA is ~14 miles from the Pacific in Santa Monica.


If you consider the Great Lakes as a “coast” only Chicago & Milwaukee DT actually sit on the shore front.
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Old 09-07-2021, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Miami comes the closest. Bays and harbors are just superior from an urban development standpoint. It’s interesting though that the two big Great Lakes cities, Chicago and Toronto, are right on their respective lakes, even though they too have their own small harbor areas.
DT San Deigo is closer to the Pacific than DT Miami is to the Atlantic by over a mile.
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Old 09-07-2021, 09:39 PM
 
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Yes Lake Bourge or Ponchartain are certainly more sheltered than Boston Harbor. Boston Harbor literally opens straight into the Atlantic with zero landmass in between. DT Miami is less than 4 miles from the Atlantic.

For context, DT New Orleans is about as geographically far away from the Gulf of Mexico as DT Houston is (45-50 miles)
There is ~1.3 miles of water that opens Boston to Massachusetts Bay. (Quincy to Winthrop). Hull to Nahant is only 4 miles

Lake Bourge has a 7.5 mile opening to the Gulf of Mexico
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Old 09-07-2021, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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There is ~1.3 miles of water that opens Boston to Massachusetts Bay. (Quincy to Winthrop). Hull to Nahant is only 4 miles

Lake Bourge has a 7.5 mile opening to the Gulf of Mexico
Yeah Lake Bourge is also +40 miles long to which DT NoLA sits another 13 miles west of.

Boston is no more “separated” from open ocean than Oakland, CA is.
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Old 09-07-2021, 09:51 PM
 
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Yeah Lake Bourge is also +40 miles long to which DT NoLA sits another 13 miles west of.

Boston is no more “separated” from open ocean than Oakland, CA is.

Mount Hope Bay is only -15 miles from open ocean but is far more sheltered than Lake Bourge bevause there is only 2700 feet of passage to Narragansett Bay and then the ocean.

Also Oakland is more sheltered than New Orleans East/Lower 9th absolutly
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Old 09-07-2021, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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None..

As the crow flies, the closest downtown to actual ocean is SD at a hair over 2 miles from Coronado Beach.

Miami’s would be second at a shade under 4 miles to Miami Beach.

DT SF/Boston are both about ~5 miles before you hit open water (there are still a few islands about 3 miles west of Winthrop, Boston in the harbor mind you).

The tip of Manhattan is almost 12 miles from Breezy Point in Brooklyn.

DT LA is ~14 miles from the Pacific in Santa Monica.


If you consider the Great Lakes as a “coast” only Chicago & Milwaukee DT actually sit on the shore front.
Technically Honolulu is closer than SD, no?

You’re right about the Great Lakes being a gray area with this. They’re not really placid like a normal lake so I’d be inclined to count them, but it’s very debatable.
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Old 09-07-2021, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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DT San Deigo is closer to the Pacific than DT Miami is to the Atlantic by over a mile.
I mean… I hardly consider Biscayne to be a bay in the conventional sense. Bunch of narrow keys in an otherwise pretty open area. I was thinking more along the lines of Coconut Grove area which is closer to DT Miami than Coronado is to DT San Diego.
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Old 09-07-2021, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Technically Honolulu is closer than SD, no?

You’re right about the Great Lakes being a gray area with this. They’re not really placid like a normal lake so I’d be inclined to count them, but it’s very debatable.
Yeah if are including Honolulu it takes the win, but for Continental US its SD/Miami > SF/Boston > NYC > LA
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Old 09-07-2021, 10:33 PM
 
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I mean… I hardly consider Biscayne to be a bay in the conventional sense. Bunch of narrow keys in an otherwise pretty open area. I was thinking more along the lines of Coconut Grove area which is closer to DT Miami than Coronado is to DT San Diego.
I mean you could say that about Coronado considering how slender it the peninsula gets, but I get your point.

Miami is the more than likely the closest DT functionally (driving distance or maritime)
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