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Old 10-01-2021, 03:42 PM
 
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And here are missions by major European country:

FRANCE (10 Open)
  1. Atlanta
  2. Boston
  3. Chicago
  4. Honolulu - Closed 1996 (presumably for French Polynesia/New Caledonia relations)
  5. Houston
  6. Los Angeles
  7. Miami
  8. New Orleans - Lots of French tourists in America go here
  9. New York
  10. San Francisco
  11. Washington

GERMANY (9)
  1. Atlanta
  2. Boston
  3. Chicago
  4. Houston
  5. Los Angeles
  6. Miami
  7. New York
  8. San Francisco
  9. Seattle - Closed in 2000
  10. Washington

ITALY (10)
  1. Boston
  2. Chicago
  3. Detroit - A legacy post from when Detroit was far more Italian
  4. Houston
  5. Los Angeles
  6. Miami
  7. New York
  8. Philadelphia - Due to the high ethnic Italian population
  9. San Francisco
  10. Washington

SPAIN (9)
  1. Boston
  2. Chicago
  3. Houston
  4. Los Angeles
  5. Miami
  6. New Orleans - Closed in 2009 (historical post from the bygone days when New Orleans was still a Spanish strategic asset)
  7. New York
  8. San Francisco
  9. San Juan
  10. Washington

UNITED KINGDOM (13)
  1. Atlanta
  2. Boston
  3. Chicago
  4. Cleveland - Closed in 1999
  5. Dallas - Closed in 2005
  6. Denver
  7. Houston
  8. Los Angeles
  9. Miami
  10. Minneapolis - Are there that many Minneapolis-UK ties?
  11. New York
  12. Orlando - Closed in 2014 (quite bizarre considering the amount of Brits coming to Florida nowadays through cheap flights)
  13. San Diego
  14. San Francisco
  15. San Juan - Closed in 2005 (presumably for British Virgin Islands relations with PR and USVI)
  16. Seattle
  17. Washington
Would you be able to do some of the smaller European countries, specifically Ireland, the Netherlands, Belgium and Sweden?
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Old 10-01-2021, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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Not surprising to me that the Houston numbers are that high. It’s an international port/gateway city and has been the most established in Texas in that regard. I do anticipate Dallas’ number growing more as more corporate relos happen in the future.
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Old 10-01-2021, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Houston is solidified at fourth actually. It was 49 not 43. Miami does have 49. And Dallas has 6.
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Old 10-01-2021, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Default Diplomatic Missions in the United States 2021 (updated)

Interesting topic, just outdated.

1. Washington - ALL!
2. New York City - 106
3. Los Angeles - 73
4. Chicago - 59
5. Houston - 49
6. San Francisco - 46
7. Miami - 43
8. Atlanta - 33
9. Boston - 32
10. New Orleans/Detroit - 13
12. Denver/Honolulu/Seattle - 9
15. Philadelphia - 7
16. Dallas - 6
17. Phoenix - 5

Some of these were outdated, and some were simply inaccurate and group both consular office and consulate-general offices.

Last edited by JMT; 10-01-2021 at 07:20 PM..
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Old 10-01-2021, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I had to look into this topic in detail earlier this year.

There are 2 different types of consulates, general consulate or Honorary Consulate. I suspect many of these cities have far more in terms of honorary consulates not listed.

A general consulate is more official diplomatic mission. A honorary consulate is more of an office for hired staff that can process information, handle documentation, etc... on behalf of an official diplomat not located on site.

Here is the current full list for Atlanta: https://www.georgia.org/internationa...nsular-offices

Consulate General: 27
Honorary Consulate: 47 (* 2 nations have both a honorary and general consulate office, so only 45 + 27 countries are represented total)
Trade offices from countries without consulate: 1 (Hong Kong)
The awkward Taiwan office that is more than a trade office and never considered a consulate or embassy, but provides full consular services: 1 (also exists in DC, NYC, San Francisco, LA, Houston, Guam, Chicago, Seattle, Honolulu, Denver, Boston, and Miami)
Territory representation at local state/regional levels: Wales, Quebec, Hong Kong, Wallonia, Flanders
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Old 10-01-2021, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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I had to look into this topic in detail earlier this year.

There are 2 different types of consulates, general consulate or Honorary Consulate. I suspect many of these cities have far more in terms of honorary consulates not listed.

A general consulate is more official diplomatic mission. A honorary consulate is more of an office for hired staff that can process information, handle documentation, etc... on behalf of an official diplomat not located on site.

Here is the current full list for Atlanta: https://www.georgia.org/internationa...nsular-offices

Consulate General: 27
Honorary Consulate: 47 (* 2 nations have both a honorary and general consulate office, so only 45 + 27 countries are represented total)
Trade offices from countries without consulate: 1 (Hong Kong)
The awkward Taiwan office that is more than a trade office and never considered a consulate or embassy, but provides full consular services: 1 (also exists in DC, NYC, San Francisco, LA, Houston, Guam, Chicago, Seattle, Honolulu, Denver, Boston, and Miami)
Territory representation at local state/regional levels: Wales, Quebec, Hong Kong, Wallonia, Flanders
TIL there's a Honorary Consulate of Georgia in Georgia. Does a Honorary Consulate do consular services (process visas, print passports for tourists who lost them)? That to me is the key distinction being a full service diplomatic mission or...something else. If that's what you mean by handle documentation, then it should probably count.
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Old 10-01-2021, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Green Country
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Interesting topic, just outdated.

1. Washington - ALL!
2. New York City - 106
3. Los Angeles - 73
4. Chicago - 59
5. Houston - 49
6. San Francisco - 46
7. Miami - 43
8. Atlanta - 33
9. Boston - 32
10. New Orleans/Detroit - 13
12. Denver/Honolulu/Seattle - 9
15. Philadelphia - 7
16. Dallas - 6
17. Phoenix - 5

Some of these were outdated, and some were simply inaccurate and group both consular office and consulate-general offices.
Is there a source? How did New Orleans double its consular count?
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Old 10-02-2021, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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Is there a source? How did New Orleans double its consular count?
OP’s source was Wikipedia. It probably hasn’t been updated in many years while others might’ve been updated more recently.

https://www.embassypages.com/city/neworleans
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Old 10-02-2021, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Houston/Austin, TX
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I had to look into this topic in detail earlier this year.

There are 2 different types of consulates, general consulate or Honorary Consulate. I suspect many of these cities have far more in terms of honorary consulates not listed.

A general consulate is more official diplomatic mission. A honorary consulate is more of an office for hired staff that can process information, handle documentation, etc... on behalf of an official diplomat not located on site.

Here is the current full list for Atlanta: https://www.georgia.org/internationa...nsular-offices

Consulate General: 27
Honorary Consulate: 47 (* 2 nations have both a honorary and general consulate office, so only 45 + 27 countries are represented total)
Trade offices from countries without consulate: 1 (Hong Kong)
The awkward Taiwan office that is more than a trade office and never considered a consulate or embassy, but provides full consular services: 1 (also exists in DC, NYC, San Francisco, LA, Houston, Guam, Chicago, Seattle, Honolulu, Denver, Boston, and Miami)
Territory representation at local state/regional levels: Wales, Quebec, Hong Kong, Wallonia, Flanders
Basically, this is how it works. A consulate general is an independent diplomatic mission. A consular office is a branch of another consulate general. They offer certain services such as Visas and possibly elections. But in the end, little if any diplomatic or trade activity. Similar to a federal reserve bank and a branch bank for that federal reserve. Think what the LA office is the SF Fed Branch.

As mentioned above (since it was mentioned), the reason it’s so lopsided in Texas is because Houston has quite a draw in international trade. It’s not just about the people that live there and diversity.

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Old 10-02-2021, 07:14 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Interesting that Houston has more than Dallas since the DFW Metroplex is a larger metro area than Greater Houston.

Also surprised there is only Mexico and El Salvador in Las Vegas since that area gets so many foreign tourists that might need services. The U.S. has consulates in smaller foreign cities that sees lots of US tourism like Cancun.
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