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Not an entire state, but Western New York. Is it the East Coast....not really. Is it the Midwest...no... You can call it the Great Lakes, but is a region that encompasses everything from northern Minnesota to northern New York, a couple hundred miles from Montreal its own single region?
No, WNY is not East Coast, but neither are non-coastal ME, non-coastal NH, western MA and VT. But it is definitely Northeastern. WNY is also definitely Great Lakes, which you can't say for the southern half of MN, the vast majority of IL, IN, PA and the southern 2/3 of OH.
Lots of old businesses in Minnesota still have "Northwest" in their names, like Northwest Camera Exchange and Northwestern Life Insurance Company. That terrible beer they used to brew in St. Paul, Hamm's, had a slogan "The beer that grew with the Great Northwest".
You take that back! Hamms is the best fish-water flavoured beer out there!
Florida's southern to me. The black population in South Florida, even if Haitian, still is predominantly southern culture to me (style of dress, cars, music, accent [sound very similar to New Orleans, Savannah, and Charleston blacks])
Even up into Central Florida, many of the whites that arent transplants are your average deep southerners
So Florida is still southern culturally, just not as much as say Alabama or Mississippi due to transplants, it's location and urban areas. But I don't think that can be used as a reason to say Florida isn't southern because couldn't a similar argument be used to say Atlanta, Charlotte, and Raleigh "aren't southern"
The Hispanics in Florida act differently from the ones in Texas, and Hispanics from both those states act differently from other southern states
Missouri belongs here. Northern Missouri is basically Illinois and Kansas, Southern Missouri is basically Arkansas, and Southeast Missouri is basically Mississippi.
Missouri is the most argued over for certain. It is culturally and historically both southern and Midwestern. It is a true mix. My vote goes for Missouri.
It makes up part of the northern international border.
There are two states east of it and eight states west of it. How is that not northeast?
Everyone go zoom out on a map of the U.S. and draw a circle around Ohio.
Imagine you are taking a test on basic understanding of cardinal directions and spatial relationships.
How would you be able to answer anything other than "its in the northeast" for Ohio?
Yes and Wisconsin would be in the northeast too. Ohio is definitely culturally Midwest, its speech and geography are Midwestern. Northeast Ohio and areas bordering PA/WV do have some traits of the interior northeast but really the rest of the state does not.
Midwest is a historical term that has its roots in the old northwest territory. As the country expanded the old northwest wasn’t so “west” anymore so it became Midwest. While its true that most of the Midwest is east of the halfway point in the country, the term Midwest is old and is not going to change. If we used the logic of basing it on the absolute dead center of America we would have CO and WY being part in the Midwest. No one will ever see states like Wisconsin and Michigan as being northeastern. The regions are as much a cultural division in this country as they are a geographical one. Green Bay is a world away from the northeast.
Yes and Wisconsin would be in the northeast too. Ohio is definitely culturally Midwest, its speech and geography are Midwestern. Northeast Ohio and areas bordering PA/WV do have some traits of the interior northeast but really the rest of the state does not.
Midwest is a historical term that has its roots in the old northwest territory. As the country expanded the old northwest wasn’t so “west” anymore so it became Midwest. While its true that most of the Midwest is east of the halfway point in the country, the term Midwest is old and is not going to change. If we used the logic of basing it on the absolute dead center of America we would have CO and WY being part in the Midwest. No one will ever see states like Wisconsin and Michigan as being northeastern. The regions are as much a cultural division in this country as they are a geographical one. Green Bay is a world away from the northeast.
Green Bay isn't that dissimilar compared with a metro area like Rochester, NY, however.
Green Bay isn't that dissimilar compared with a metro area like Rochester, NY, however.
One could argue that they are part of the same great lakes sub region.
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