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Florida's southern to me. The black population in South Florida, even if Haitian, still is predominantly southern culture to me (style of dress, cars, music, accent [sound very similar to New Orleans, Savannah, and Charleston blacks])
Even up into Central Florida, many of the whites that arent transplants are your average deep southerners
So Florida is still southern culturally, just not as much as say Alabama or Mississippi due to transplants, it's location and urban areas. But I don't think that can be used as a reason to say Florida isn't southern because couldn't a similar argument be used to say Atlanta, Charlotte, and Raleigh "aren't southern"
At this point, having a bunch of transplants is basically a Southern trait in and of itself.
I will admit, most transplants to Florida don't assimilate into a southern lifestyle, however I think they used to. I grew up in Florida and I had teachers who moved to Florida from places like California and Illinois, and they had developed southern accents. But they had moved decades ago when the state had a stronger native born populace.
Personally, I don't get people who move to places and don't assimilate. I have been living in the Midwest for less than 5 years but I def have assimilated to the local culture and even picked up a lot of slang and dialect stuff. It doesn't mean you lose your roots, just embrace something new.
Missouri belongs here. Northern Missouri is basically Illinois and Kansas, Southern Missouri is basically Arkansas, and Southeast Missouri is basically Mississippi.
I lived in Missouri for 4 years, and it;'s definitely a strong contender for the hardest state in what region to put it into. I don't think it can be defined north and south of I-44. It becomes way more subtle than that.
I’m going to say MO, OH, WV, MD, TX, and OK. At the end of the day, Florida’s culture is more southern than people on City Data like to admit it is, even though southern culture does wane in the I-4 corridor and in South FL!!
It makes up part of the northern international border.
There are two states east of it and eight states west of it. How is that not northeast?
Everyone go zoom out on a map of the U.S. and draw a circle around Ohio.
Imagine you are taking a test on basic understanding of cardinal directions and spatial relationships.
How would you be able to answer anything other than "its in the northeast" for Ohio?
Well, the Midwest, by that logic, is mostly Northeast. However, it is a good one for how to box. I can see both arguments there.
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