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Old 06-12-2022, 12:11 PM
 
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It's in the Northeast. It was one of the 13 original colonies, and it's north of the Mason-Dixon Line.
So the original 13 colonies = the northeast?
The original 13 that included Georgia, the Carolinas, Virginia? Maine and Vermont were not part of the original 13, does that mean they are not northeast?

The current designation of states does not fit because the country is in a constant state of change.
Pennsylvania was more Northeast than not because that is what it was. It was one of the first refuge for slaves escaping Maryland and Delaware. Conversely this states were southern because they were the last states before you crossed into the north.

Ohio is midwest because when you got to the Mississippi, passed that was the West. Ohio and Indiana are halfway to the Mississippi so midwest was a good place to put them.

Kentucky and Tennessee are firmly southern states. So is Florida.

Missouri is where it gets hard because St Louis was the gateway to the west, and the state is basically west of St Louis.

The western part of the south is the hardest to place because it has changed the most since these designations were put in place.
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Old 06-12-2022, 12:12 PM
 
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What makes it a region? The midwest as we know it today wasn't even a thing until the 80s.
The 80s? What? Do you mean the 1880s?
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Old 06-12-2022, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Pullman->Iowa City
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Now after thinking through this and seeing the replies, I feel like the answer might be Oklahoma. I think another answer could be West Virginia, but Oklahoma is split between three separate regions; South, Southwest, and Midwest.
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Old 06-12-2022, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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The 80s? What? Do you mean the 1880s?
In the 1980s, Minnesota was considered a northwestern state.
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Old 06-12-2022, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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It wasn't created in the '80s. Not sure where you heard that... The term itself was around before then. Was it in widespread use? Idk I was born in the '90s but a buddy of mine grew up in Omaha in the '70s and '80s so I can ask him. What does it matter even IF the term was created in the '80s? What makes the '80s any less legitimate than the 1770s? Or 1840s? The states of the region had been states for a century prior at least anyway.

There's tons that makes the Midwest a region. Ranging from climate, to geography, to culture, to industry. You have to play dumb to think otherwise.
What makes it all one region?
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Old 06-12-2022, 01:26 PM
 
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The big swath between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh can seem like Alabama though.
No, it can't. As one of the few people on this site who's actually spent an extensive amount of time in both states, no, it can't. As somebody who regularly goes off the beaten path in different states, no, it can't.

When I've spent time in towns like Alabaster, Alexander City, Albertville, Andalusia, Anniston, Atmore, Bay Minette, Brewton, Cedar Bluff, Cullman, Daphne, Dothan, Double Springs, Eufala, Flomaton, Foley, Gadsden, Guin, Guntersville, Hamilton, Heflin, Leeds, Northport, Opelika, Oxford, Pell City, Phenix City, Piedmont, Prattville, Reform, Spanish Fort, Sulligent, Troy or Tuskegee, never once did I think, "Gee, this reminds me of Pennsylvania!"

Pennsylvania is a northeastern state, period. Latitude puts it in the North. Longitude puts it in the East. And culturally speaking...well, enjoy the slideshow, but give yourself some time, because it has 60 slides.
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Old 06-12-2022, 01:28 PM
 
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In the 1980s, Minnesota was considered a northwestern state.
No it wasn't.
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Old 06-12-2022, 01:31 PM
 
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So the original 13 colonies = the northeast?
No, the combination of "one of the 13 original colonies" and "north of the Mason-Dixon Line" is the Northeast, just as I said.
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Old 06-12-2022, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Pullman->Iowa City
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In the 1980s, Minnesota was considered a northwestern state.
I've seen it all. This right here, may be the worst take I have ever seen in my entire life.

The last states to enter the union were Alaska and Hawaii in 1959. HOW could Minnesota be considered a Northwestern state WHEN NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM 1959 TO PRESENT DAY?
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Old 06-12-2022, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Ga, from Minneapolis
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I've seen it all. This right here, may be the worst take I have ever seen in my entire life.

The last states to enter the union were Alaska and Hawaii in 1959. HOW could Minnesota be considered a Northwestern state WHEN NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM 1959 TO PRESENT DAY?
I think your not getting what I'm saying...The 1980s wasn't that long ago. Twin cities newscast referred to themselves as northwestern. Also Northwest Airlines which merged with Delta was based in Minnesota.
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