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View Poll Results: Is Philadelphia still a tier 1 US city?
Yes 108 61.36%
No 68 38.64%
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Old 12-30-2022, 07:27 AM
 
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Regarding #9 IMO, I got Dallas ahead of Philly with Miami slightly ahead of Seattle. My methodology may not be perfect that's how I rank my cities. I place a great deal of emphasis on all of those factors. How do you rank 8-11?
8. Philly
9-10. Atlanta and Dallas
11. Miami
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Old 12-30-2022, 07:58 AM
 
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I wouldn’t say any of that is enough to put Atlanta over Houston, which has a higher economic output and is the center of the US energy industry. Houston is also more diverse and internationally oriented than Atlanta is as well and this also shows in the cultural and culinary stage for comparing the two cities.
Naw…Atlanta is definitely just above Houston.
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Old 12-30-2022, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Naw…Atlanta is definitely just above Houston.
In your own head I guess.

Back to the point of the thread, despite the fact that Philly isn’t as dominant as before, I would say Philly is still obviously a tier 1 city if tier 1 is the top 10 metros.
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Old 12-30-2022, 08:21 AM
 
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Pretty good, except replace swap Houston and Atlanta.
Dallas/Fort Worth easily surpasses Atlanta, Philly and Houston.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...t-metro-areas/
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Old 12-30-2022, 08:23 AM
 
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8. Philly
9-10. Atlanta and Dallas
11. Miami
Philly 2020 GDP was $478 billion. DFW GDP was $609 billion. Not even close. DFW also far out does Atlanta.
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Old 12-30-2022, 08:34 AM
 
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In your own head I guess.

Back to the point of the thread, despite the fact that Philly isn’t as dominant as before, I would say Philly is still obviously a tier 1 city if tier 1 is the top 10 metros.
Uh, I think it’s in your own head.

I already clearly outlined in the posts above why Atlanta is just above Houston. You just don’t like the facts - along with Atlanta’s je ne sais quoi.

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Old 12-30-2022, 08:44 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Philly 2020 GDP was $478 billion. DFW GDP was $609 billion. Not even close. DFW also far out does Atlanta.
Not arguing the order of Philly, Dallas and Atlanta. But why do some base a ranking solely on GDP and Fortune 500s?... Yes, Dallas has the largest economy, but Philly and Atlanta have massive economies, they are all even in per capita GDP, and Philly outranks Dallas and Atlanta in per capita total personal income.

My point, there are sooo many other factors at play when it comes to "tier ranking" cities.

What about history, culture, higher education, economic niches, diversity, food, politics, sports, tourism? etc...
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Old 12-30-2022, 08:50 AM
 
Location: D.C. / I-95
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DC's also known as the top city for law practice in the country with more lawyers per capita ahead of NYC, LA, and Chicago.

It's also top 3 news media hub in the United States.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ngeles-or-d-c/

There are other industries outside of those such as life sciences in the suburbs, and others based around tech etc,. but DC doesn't even really need those to remain as relevant as it is due to dominating an already dominate industry.

Yes with the topic of the thread being about Philly though, let's stay on the influence of that city.
On the lawyer point, NYC is the standard, not DC, although you are correct that DC is a lawyers city with the most lawyers per capita (I happen to be one of those DC lawyers). Big law salaries follow Cravath and Milbank for example.
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Old 12-30-2022, 08:58 AM
 
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Not arguing the order of Philly, Dallas and Atlanta. But why do some base a ranking solely on GDP and Fortune 500s?... Yes, Dallas has the largest economy, but Philly and Atlanta have massive economies, they are all even in per capita GDP, and Philly outranks Dallas and Atlanta in per capita total personal income.

My point, there are sooo many other factors at play when it comes to "tier ranking" cities.

What about history, culture, higher education, economic niches, diversity, food, politics, sports, tourism? etc...
This. Exactly this.
Good post.
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Old 12-30-2022, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Uh, I think it’s in your own head.

I already clearly outlined above why Atlanta is just above Houston. You just don’t like the facts along with Atlanta’s je ne sais quoi.
Lol. Houston is a bigger economy and a bigger region that is significantly more diverse and a bigger international player. It also has complete domination over a major industry and is ahead of Atlanta regarding cultural and culinary amenities. Being the center of a region with no similarly sized city for 500 miles isn’t enough to overcome this. The hard facts also show Houston ahead (GDP, etc.) but I’m not gonna get into those since they have been done time and time again on this board.

That’s all I’ll say since Atlanta vs Houston is not the thread at hand.
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