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Just curious, but do we have percentages of black households in city propers that make at least $75,000 besides the handful of Northeastern cities I posted earlier? That could give some idea of at least how many of these households are in cities.
What would you say constitutes the Black middle-class? I think we need to define it. Educated? Cotillion and Beautillion? High household income? Jack and Jill?
Also, what is the local political impact of the growing Black middle-class for cities? I know for DC, the Black middle-class in Ward 7 and 8 played a major role in Mayor Bowser getting reelected. Without the Black-middle class stronghold east of the river, she would have loss. The second-place challenger Robert White overwhelmingly won the young White gentrified areas in the urban core of the city.
Last edited by MDAllstar; 07-08-2022 at 04:14 PM..
What would you say constitutes the Black middle-class? I think we need to define it. Educated? Cotillion and Beautillion? High household income? Jack and Jill?
I was just thinking in terms of the $75,000 and up criteria. Granted, this could be adjusted by a city’s cost of living and perhaps other factors, but that at least is a start.
Do you know if the local electorate is being impacted in the City of Houston or City of Charlotte by the growing Black middle-class? How has their growth and strength in numbers changed local politics in those cities?
My response was for the list of cities with either a gain or loss of Black population since 2000 which was irrelevant to the thread because it showed cities like Charlotte gaining tons of Black people without factoring what income bracket they were in which speaks to the topic of the thread. Charlotte has gained many Black people, but Charlotte has not gained more middle-class Black households than other cities that are losing Black residents. The question of "who" cities are losing is relevant.
I don't think anyone is making this claim.
Interestingly enough, Charlotte seems to be exhibiting at the municipal level what Atlanta has long exhibited at the metropolitan level: robust growth of Black residents at all SES levels.
Do you know if the local electorate is being impacted in the City of Houston or City of Charlotte by the growing Black middle-class? How has their growth and strength in numbers changed local politics in those cities?
I can't speak for Houston but for Charlotte, absolutely. Both the city of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County have experienced a noticeable uptick in Black political representation over the past two decades.
I can't speak for Houston but for Charlotte, absolutely. Both the city of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County have experienced a noticeable uptick in Black political representation over the past two decades.
That's great! With the growing Black elite in cities, we may start to see a new wave of Black leadership taking over cities that lost that reputation during Black flight of the 1960's-2000's. New York City even has a new Black mayor. People forget, the Black elite are way more likely to vote in local elections.
New York City Black Household Income Difference 2000-2020
Total Black Household Difference = -7976
Less than $10,000 = -74589
$10,000 to $14,999 = -3673
$15,000 to $19,999 = -8448
$20,000 to $24,999 = -15616
$25,000 to $29,999 = -20502
$30,000 to $34,999 = -14645
$35,000 to $39,999 = -12777
$40,000 to $44,999 = -5632
$45,000 to $49,999 = -3677
$50,000 to $59,999 = -5617
$60,000 to $74,999 = +5,056
$75,000 to $99,999 = +30,175
$100,000 to $124,999 = +33,889
$125,000 to $149,999 = +25,675
$150,000 to $199,999 = +33,372
$200,000 or more = +29,033
That's great! With the growing Black elite in cities, we may start to see a new wave of Black leadership taking over cities that lost that reputation during Black flight of the 1960's-2000's. New York City even has a new Black mayor. People forget, the Black elite are way more likely to vote in local elections.
New York City Black Household Income Difference 2000-2020
Total Black Household Difference = -7976
Less than $10,000 = -74589
$10,000 to $14,999 = -3673
$15,000 to $19,999 = -8448
$20,000 to $24,999 = -15616
$25,000 to $29,999 = -20502
$30,000 to $34,999 = -14645
$35,000 to $39,999 = -12777
$40,000 to $44,999 = -5632
$45,000 to $49,999 = -3677
$50,000 to $59,999 = -5617
$60,000 to $74,999 = +5,056
$75,000 to $99,999 = +30,175
$100,000 to $124,999 = +33,889
$125,000 to $149,999 = +25,675
$150,000 to $199,999 = +33,372
$200,000 or more = +29,033
I don’t know if I quite follow this. There has been a ton of inflation in the past 20 years, are these numbers adjusted for that? Could it be that some if not most of this growth is due to wage growth and/or upward mobility from native NY residents? I highly doubt the vast majority of people making $35k in NYC in 2000 are still making anywhere near that amount. I’d imagine that 2000 $35k job is paying at least double that today. It’s a good thing but is it necessarily tied to migration?
I don’t know if I quite follow this. There has been a ton of inflation in the past 20 years, are these numbers adjusted for that? Could it be that some if not most of this growth is due to wage growth and/or upward mobility from native NY residents? I highly doubt the vast majority of people making $35k in NYC in 2000 are still making anywhere near that amount. I’d imagine that 2000 $35k job is paying at least double that today. It’s a good thing but is it necessarily tied to migration?
Inflation from 2000-2020 is only about $20k. How many people making $30k in 2000 are now making over $200k in NYC? The math doesn’t even add up for the decrease in households for each income class.
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