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SMSA Median Family Income, 1960
Stamford, CT $8,745
Washington, DC $7,577
Paterson-Clifton-Passaic, NJ $7,431
San Jose, CA $7,417
Chicago, IL $7,342
Reno, NV $7,197
Hartford, CT $7,187
Newark, NJ $7,149
Rochester, NY $7,147
Sacramento, CA $7,100
San Francisco-Oakland, CA $7,092
Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA $7,066
Las Vegas, NV $7,010
Now that I sort everything out...
Median Family Income, 1960
1. Stamford CT $8,745
2. Norwalk CT $8,002
3. Washington DC-VA-MD $7,577
4. Paterson-Clifton-Passaic NJ $7,431
5. San Jose CA $7,417
6. Chicago IL $7,342
7. Reno NV $7,197
8. Hartford CT $7,187
9. Newark NJ $7,149
10. Rochester NY $7,147
11. Sacramento CA $7,100
12. San Francisco-Oakland CA $7,092
13. Los Angeles CA $7,066
14. Las Vegas NV $7,010
15. Milwaukee WI $6,995
16. Cleveland OH $6,962
17. Midland TX $6,936
18. Kenosha WI $6,916
19. Waterbury CT $6,900
20. Seattle WA $6,896
21. Ann Arbor MI $6,890
22. Minneapolis-St Paul MN $6,840
23. Detroit MI $6,825
24. Santa Barbara CA $6,823
25. Honolulu HI $6,792
26. Bridgeport CT $6,776
27. Wilmington DE $6,746
28. Akron OH $6,735
29. Racine WI $6,722
30. Trenton NJ $6,707
Some observation:
1. DC and SF already had high income back then, and that haven't changed even now
2. Midwest, as expect, ranks much higher. There are also a bunch of smaller Midwest metros (Rockford is #31, South Bend #38, Gary #42 and higher than NYC, Toledo $45, Kalamazoo #46) that makes the list and are now quite economically depressed.
3. NV is insane...back then they basically only have casinos, and their incomes are still insanely high.
4. CT was rich, VERY rich...
P.S. 18Montclair how can you left out DC of all place .
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And States by Median Family Income (The list in the PDF already sort things by per capita income):
1. Alaska $7,305
2. Connecticut $6,887
3. New Jersey $6,786
4. Nevada $6,736
5. California $6,726
6. Illinois $6,566
7. New York $6,371
8. Hawaii $6,366
9. Maryland $6,309
10. Massachusetts $6,272
11. Michigan $6,256
12. Washington $6,225
13. Delaware $6,197
14. Ohio $6,171
15. District of Columbia $5,993
16. Wisconsin $5,926
17. Utah $5,899
18. Oregon $5,892
19. Wyoming $5,877
20. Indiana $5,798
21. Colorado $5,780
22. Pennsylvania $5,719 United States $5,660
23. New Hampshire $5,636
24. Rhode Island $5,589
25. Minnesota $5,573
26. Arizona $5,568
27. Montana $5,403
28. New Mexico $5,371
29. Kansas $5,295
30. Idaho $5,259
31. Missouri $5,127
32. Iowa $5,069
33. Virginia $4,964
34. Vermont $4,890
35. Texas $4,884
36. Maine $4,873
37. Nebraska $4,862
38. Florida $4,722
39. Oklahoma $4,620
40. West Virginia $4,572
41. North Dakota $4,530
42. Louisiana $4,272
43. South Dakota $4,251
44. Georgia $4,208
45. Kentucky $4,051
46. North Carolina $3,956
47. Tennessee $3,949
48. Alabama $3,937
49. South Carolina $3,821
50. Arkansas $3,184
51. Mississippi $2,884
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Some comment:
1. Keep in mind Alaska and Hawaii just became a state in this census. Both states fare pretty well on this list
2. Conn. was wealthy...VERY wealthy...I'll have to repeat this again
3. Cal also had high income even back then
4. The Midwest are kind of in the middle, but mostly fare better than the national number
5. Mississippi (and Arkansas) were poor...VERY poor, and are still the two poorest states arguably in the whole country.
6. The south overall was awful. States like NC or GA and especially VA (Thanks mainly to NoVA) are faring much better nowaday.
First anomaly that jumped out at me -- Georgia is higher than Illinois, but Chicago is a bit above Atlanta. Which would imply tha rural Georgia is above rural Illinois.
Virginia isn’t fairing better these days “mainly due to NoVa”. The Richmond MSA keeps appearing pretty high on all of these lists. The Charlottesville area (Albemarle) does too. York Co (Hampton Roads) and Goochland Co (Richmond) both appear near the top of some of these wealthy county lists too.
Northern Virginia is a powerhouse but the rest of the commonwealth fares very well too (SWVA and South side notwithstanding).
Last edited by spencer114; 10-11-2022 at 05:17 AM..
Virginia isn’t fairing better these days “mainly due to NoVa”. The Richmond MSA keeps appearing pretty high on all of these lists. The Charlottesville area (Albemarle) does too. York Co (Hampton Roads) and Goochland Co (Richmond) both appear near the top of some of these wealthy county lists too.
Northern Virginia is a powerhouse but the rest of the commonwealth fares very well too (SWVA and South side notwithstanding).
Fairfax County only gets 23 cents for each dollar it pays in state taxes…
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Originally Posted by ion475
Now that I sort everything out...
Median Family Income, 1960
1. Stamford CT $8,745
2. Norwalk CT $8,002
3. Washington DC-VA-MD $7,577
4. Paterson-Clifton-Passaic NJ $7,431
5. San Jose CA $7,417
6. Chicago IL $7,342
7. Reno NV $7,197
8. Hartford CT $7,187
9. Newark NJ $7,149
10. Rochester NY $7,147
11. Sacramento CA $7,100
12. San Francisco-Oakland CA $7,092
13. Los Angeles CA $7,066
14. Las Vegas NV $7,010
15. Milwaukee WI $6,995
16. Cleveland OH $6,962
17. Midland TX $6,936
18. Kenosha WI $6,916
19. Waterbury CT $6,900
20. Seattle WA $6,896
21. Ann Arbor MI $6,890
22. Minneapolis-St Paul MN $6,840
23. Detroit MI $6,825
24. Santa Barbara CA $6,823
25. Honolulu HI $6,792
26. Bridgeport CT $6,776
27. Wilmington DE $6,746
28. Akron OH $6,735
29. Racine WI $6,722
30. Trenton NJ $6,707
Some observation:
1. DC and SF already had high income back then, and that haven't changed even now
2. Midwest, as expect, ranks much higher. There are also a bunch of smaller Midwest metros (Rockford is #31, South Bend #38, Gary #42 and higher than NYC, Toledo $45, Kalamazoo #46) that makes the list and are now quite economically depressed.
3. NV is insane...back then they basically only have casinos, and their incomes are still insanely high.
4. CT was rich, VERY rich...
P.S. 18Montclair how can you left out DC of all place .
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And States by Median Family Income (The list in the PDF already sort things by per capita income):
1. Alaska $7,305
2. Connecticut $6,887
3. New Jersey $6,786
4. Nevada $6,736
5. California $6,726
6. Illinois $6,566
7. New York $6,371
8. Hawaii $6,366
9. Maryland $6,309
10. Massachusetts $6,272
11. Michigan $6,256
12. Washington $6,225
13. Delaware $6,197
14. Ohio $6,171
15. District of Columbia $5,993
16. Wisconsin $5,926
17. Utah $5,899
18. Oregon $5,892
19. Wyoming $5,877
20. Indiana $5,798
21. Colorado $5,780
22. Pennsylvania $5,719 United States $5,660
23. New Hampshire $5,636
24. Rhode Island $5,589
25. Minnesota $5,573
26. Arizona $5,568
27. Montana $5,403
28. New Mexico $5,371
29. Kansas $5,295
30. Idaho $5,259
31. Missouri $5,127
32. Iowa $5,069
33. Virginia $4,964
34. Vermont $4,890
35. Texas $4,884
36. Maine $4,873
37. Nebraska $4,862
38. Florida $4,722
39. Oklahoma $4,620
40. West Virginia $4,572
41. North Dakota $4,530
42. Louisiana $4,272
43. South Dakota $4,251
44. Georgia $4,208
45. Kentucky $4,051
46. North Carolina $3,956
47. Tennessee $3,949
48. Alabama $3,937
49. South Carolina $3,821
50. Arkansas $3,184
51. Mississippi $2,884
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Some comment:
1. Keep in mind Alaska and Hawaii just became a state in this census. Both states fare pretty well on this list
2. Conn. was wealthy...VERY wealthy...I'll have to repeat this again
3. Cal also had high income even back then
4. The Midwest are kind of in the middle, but mostly fare better than the national number
5. Mississippi (and Arkansas) were poor...VERY poor, and are still the two poorest states arguably in the whole country.
6. The south overall was awful. States like NC or GA and especially VA (Thanks mainly to NoVA) are faring much better nowaday.
Virginia isn’t fairing better these days “mainly due to NoVa”. The Richmond MSA keeps appearing pretty high on all of these lists. The Charlottesville area (Albemarle) does too. York Co (Hampton Roads) and Goochland Co (Richmond) both appear near the top of some of these wealthy county lists too.
Northern Virginia is a powerhouse but the rest of the commonwealth fares very well too (SWVA and South side notwithstanding).
For Goochland Co isn't most of that "wealth" basically in those exurban-like development just west of Short Pump? And population is like 25k...
York County VA reminds me somewhat of the areas of Anne Arundel County or even Calvert County next to the bay with those property with water access. Definitely wealthy enclaves...
That being said NoVA is still like 45% of the state's GDP. RVA is definitely doing good, but NoVA is definitely what push Virginia's median/average income way up.
Sure. But if you look at an income distribution map, the commonwealth still outperforms states to the south and Midwest.
Some people act like Northern Virginia is an anomaly (like it’s rare that one area of a state outperforms the others). This is true of every state. NoVa is no different than Atlanta, New York, Chicago or Seattle. Unlike a lot of other states though, Virginia still does very well outside of our chief metro.
If I make $100 and 20% goes to taxes and my brother
Makes $90 and 8% goes to taxes
I'm I more wealthy than my brother.
Complicating things further. My higher taxes mean there are things that are free or cost less to me than to my brother. Who is wealthier now?
I make more than him, but he takes home more, but he pays more for non-equity expenses...let's say public transit.
The census should know better than publishing data in an oversimplified manner. I don't think it's accurate that Loudoun County is the wealthiest in the country.
Obviously, what and how you measure affects the outcome. One advantage Loudon has over others is that an estimated 70% of global internet traffic passes through NoVa Data centers. The big cloud players have been paying in excess of $2M an acre for suitable land. Currently, Loudon has 100+ data centers on 30M sq ft, that generate $500M in taxes or about $1,200 per capita. Hard to beat that.The data center rush has now spread to other NoVa counties, and into Frederick Co Md.
Virginia 5
California 4
New Jersey 3
Maryland 2
Ohio 1
Georgia 1
Tennessee 1
New York 1
Texas 1
Colorado 1
Surprises:
*Connecticut, Washington, Massachusetts not in the top 20
*Virginia is a deeply wealthy area in the DC suburbs--as-is Maryland
*California, I would've thought, should have more representation in the top 20, but wealth is being more distributed
*The west and the south showing up well with Colorado (Denver metro), Texas (Dallas metro), Georgia (Atlanta metro) and Tennessee (Nashville metro)
*Despite the perception of some about New Jersey nationally, it is a wealthy state in many Jersey suburbs of NYC
CT and MA are not surprising- they're never on any county-type lists.
The counties there are huge in comparison to the total land area of the state. MA has like 12 (mainland) counties whereas Maryland has 23. CT has 8. So MD counties contain on average less than half as many people as a CT or MA county. Even NJ has more counties than MA and CT combined. The two no mainland counties in MA im not counting are Marthas Vineyard which isnt that wealthy, that's really just the people who visit/summer. And Nantucket which might be too small to qualify here. It has like 10,000 residents.
Much of those counties that are in the "Boston Area" or "Tri-State" is- in reality- far removed from Boston or Stamford or NYC and rural and moderate-income. And almost all the counties have poor cities in them. Especially in MA.
CT and MA are not surprising- they're never on any county-type lists.
The counties there are huge in comparison to the total land area of the state. MA has like 12 (mainland) counties whereas Maryland has 23. CT has 8. So MD counties contain on average less than half as many people as a CT or MA county. Even NJ has more counties than MA and CT combined. The two no mainland counties in MA im not counting are Marthas Vineyard which isnt that wealthy, that's really just the people who visit/summer. And Nantucket which might be too small to qualify here. It has like 10,000 residents.
Much of those counties that are in the "Boston Area" or "Tri-State" is- in reality- far removed from Boston or Stamford or NYC and rural and moderate-income. And almost all the counties have poor cities in them. Especially in MA.
Yeah. Counties in those areas are just different beats.
I mean, Middlesex County in MA spans from Everett, to Natick, to Westford, and includes areas like Cambridge and Somerville. It's an accumulation of many different towns/cities/areas that have zero relevance to one another. The average Middlesex county native hasn't even heard of all of the towns in the county.
But, no harm in comparing counties in general if it's your thing.
Furthermore, I think people surprised by the rise of San Mateo and Santa Clara are just not aware that both have been affluent for a very long time, even pre-dating high tech. Here is Census 1960. San Mateo for example is the closest thing to old money suburbia on the entire west coast. Mansions in Atherton, Hillsborough, Woodside, Portola Valley, etc. was the place where SF elite 'summered back at the turn of the 20th century.
1. They were called Standard Statistical Metropolitan Areas, SMSA.
2. The Census Bureau didn't release Median HH Income, only Per Capita and Median Family. Interesting.
SMSA Median Family Income, 1960
Stamford, CT $8,745
Washington, DC $7,577
Paterson-Clifton-Passaic, NJ $7,431
San Jose, CA $7,417
Chicago, IL $7,342
Reno, NV $7,197
Hartford, CT $7,187
Newark, NJ $7,149
Rochester, NY $7,147
Sacramento, CA $7,100
San Francisco-Oakland, CA $7,092
Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA $7,066
Las Vegas, NV $7,010
Selected Counties by Median Family Income, 1960
Montgomery, MD $9,317
Los Alamos, NM $9,269
Arlington, VA $8,670
Fairfax, VA $8,607
DuPage, IL $8,570
Nassau, NY $8,515
Johnson, KS $8,161
New York, NY $8,161
Marin, CA $8,110
San Mateo, CA $8,103
Westchester, NY $8,052
Bergen NJ $7,978
Union, NJ $7,746
Morris, NJ $7,696
Lake, IL $7,651
Oakland, MI $7,576
St Louis, MO $7,527
Somerset, NJ $7,484
Rockland, NY $7,472
Prince George's, MD $7,471
Santa Clara, CA $7,417
Fairfield, CT $7,371
Norfolk, MA $7,366
Contra Costa, CA $7,327
Cook, IL $7,287
Orange, CA $7,219
Jefferson, CO $7,202
Washoe, NV $7,197
Waukesha, WI $7,190
Putnam, NY $7,176
Kane, IL $7,152
Ozauke,WI $7,152 Madison, NY $7,147
Lake, OH $7,146
Arapahoe, CO $7,137
Daggett, UT $7,100
Sacramento, CA $7,100
Baltimore, MD $7,098
Macomb, MI $7,091
Hartford, CT $7,054
Middlesex, NJ $7,054
Los Angeles, CA $7,046
Clark, NV $7,010
The bolded county is very interesting given that it is a more small town/rural county east of Syracuse. It does have some old affluence in the Cazenovia area though.
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