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Old 01-06-2023, 01:21 AM
 
Location: West Seattle
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I'm baffled at California being #3. Sure we have rich suburban areas (the North Bay, the South Bay, Ventura County, Lake Tahoe), but we also have blighted inner cities and poor areas like the Central Valley with pollution and high obesity rates. McDonalds and Five Guys are as widespread here as anywhere.

Also, Colorado not being in the top 10 when fitness seems like a strong part of their culture, even (especially) in rural areas.
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Old 01-06-2023, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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First and foremost, how on earth is California on this list? California's metro centers are inundated with high-stress lifestyles, horrible traffic congestion, crime, high COL, homelessness, high drug and alcohol abuse, etc... How does this make for a good/healthy place to live? One could say the same about Washington and Oregon..
Nope. California is below average when it comes to both drug abuse and alcholism.

https://wallethub.com/edu/drug-use-by-state/35150

https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...ption-by-state

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The South and Midwest are totally missing, no Florida? Frankly the list seems very bias towards the west coast..
Well, people on the west coast in general have a healthier lifestyle I suppose, and are far more apt to be into the outdoors and healthy eating and stuff like that, at least so goes the popular perception.

Also, popular perception says that the South is highly overweight and has a lot of opioid use. That might not apply to everywhere in the region but that is the image in the minds of a lot of people when they think of health+south.

So maybe there's a little truth in these popular perceptions reflected in life expectancy?
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Old 01-06-2023, 04:27 AM
 
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Nope. California is below average when it comes to both drug abuse and alcholism.

https://wallethub.com/edu/drug-use-by-state/35150

https://worldpopulationreview.com/st...ption-by-state


Well, people on the west coast in general have a healthier lifestyle I suppose, and are far more apt to be into the outdoors and healthy eating and stuff like that, at least so goes the popular perception.

Also, popular perception says that the South is highly overweight and has a lot of opioid use. That might not apply to everywhere in the region but that is the image in the minds of a lot of people when they think of health+south.

So maybe there's a little truth in these popular perceptions reflected in life expectancy?
That first link you posted doesn't say what you think it does. It has several different list from the same study for various things like teenage drug use and one of them has California, Vermont, and Massachusetts as the top states for adults and teenagers. And life expectancy for the upper class and wealthy have always been high so no, there's little truth in this.
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Old 01-06-2023, 04:52 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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That first link you posted doesn't say what you think it does. It has several different list from the same study for various things like teenage drug use and one of them has California, Vermont, and Massachusetts as the top states for adults and teenagers. And life expectancy for the upper class and wealthy have always been high so no, there's little truth in this.
Sure, there are variables to consider but overall, contrary to the point made by the person I was responding to, California is not really at the top of states when it comes to overall drug use, it's in the middle of the pack.
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Old 01-06-2023, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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California is also one of the top states for health care, actually ranking #1 in public health and #6 in quality of health care, at least according to this ranking.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-sta...gs/health-care

I never really thought about this until my son got sick in another state I won't mention. I could tell the difference immediately.
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Old 01-06-2023, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Hudson County, New Jersey
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MA in the top 5 of another list? Shocker.
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Old 01-06-2023, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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State rankings are indeed interesting, as there is definitely a link between states' public policy/social welfare system and life expectancy.

But I think the correlation with incomes and race are much more pronounced, which is localized, and you can find significant variations within states.

I'd expect life expectancy to be statistically higher in San Mateo County versus Fresno County, for example.
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Old 01-06-2023, 07:46 AM
 
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Glancing at the list, but I imagine there is some racial similarity with those top 10 states. Namely all are well-below the national average with AA.
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Old 01-06-2023, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Glancing at the list, but I imagine there is some racial similarity with those top 10 states. Namely all are well-below the national average with AA.
Connecticut is not. You could argue Minnesota is not.

CT MA MN are all right at (MA) or above *median* AA population
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Old 01-06-2023, 09:10 AM
 
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I disagree with this list, not sure what type of data or research was used to compile this list but it does not make sense.. Just to point out a few:

First and foremost, how on earth is California on this list? California's metro centers are inundated with high-stress lifestyles, horrible traffic congestion, crime, high COL, homelessness, high drug and alcohol abuse, etc... How does this make for a good/healthy place to live? One could say the same about Washington and Oregon..

The South and Midwest are totally missing, no Florida? Frankly the list seems very bias towards the west coast..
Having lived in both California and Florida, I personally found FL equally (if not more) “ high stress lifestyles” “horrible traffic congestion” (you literally can’t go anywhere worthy during the months of March and April because of the Springbreakers if you happen to live near coastal/touristy areas.) It’s even worse in FL since the state is smaller and doesn’t provide as much cultural/urban/economic amenities as California. At least CA doesn’t promote itself as a “paradise”.

Where did you get the idea CA is notorious for “high drug and alcohol abuse”? If anything I associate with many Californians with too much emphasis on “wellness” and fitness to the point of obsession, in the coastal and affluent areas at least.

CA also has great health care-key to longevity-while FL is the only state out of five states I’ve lived in with the medical doctor misdiagnosed my hereditary eczema as shingles. (I told him I wasn’t in pain and I knew it was my eczema breakout, he still insisted it was shingles.-he was wrong. I NEVER had shingles. My eczema was immediately healed once I moved out of FL.)
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