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Old 02-08-2023, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I love how they say NJ, but the apartments are completely full, schools are over enrolled and the demand to get a place is very high.

They also said states like NY and NJ lost population, then seriously undercounted them.

I don't believe any of this until the real census comes out. We will found out on how off they were in 8 years.
Well you’ll never know what happens in 2022 if you’re only really validating the 2010 Census and the 2030 census
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Old 02-09-2023, 12:18 AM
 
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This also describes the Wichita, KS area which is so backward and unwelcoming toward anyone who isn't White. It really sucks.
7409 people moved away from Kansas. But more people are moving to Oklahoma and a lot more to Texas. Maybe you need to move to one of those states. But if you're a devoted homebody, I know doing that is hard to do.
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Old 02-09-2023, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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States like New Jersey can be busy and crowded with hardly any vacant housing, and still seeing a domestic net migration loss. This is because of factors such as (1) foreign immigration, (2) more births than deaths and (3) new household formation as young people grow up. It's also likely that some people who officially relocate to places like Florida still maintain a northern residence to live in part of the time.
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Old 02-09-2023, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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This also describes the Wichita, KS area which is so backward and unwelcoming toward anyone who isn't White. It really sucks.
Not to discount your experience, but metro Wichita is close to 30% "minority" and rising - so a lot of people from different backgrounds are finding their place there. The area of northeast Tennessee mentioned in the earlier post is closer to 90% White so it is far more homogeneous.
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Old 02-09-2023, 08:35 AM
 
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Interesting that Wisconsin had net in-migration while all four states bordering it had net out-migration...
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Old 02-09-2023, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Wichita, Kansas
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Not to discount your experience, but metro Wichita is close to 30% "minority" and rising - so a lot of people from different backgrounds are finding their place there. The area of northeast Tennessee mentioned in the earlier post is closer to 90% White so it is far more homogeneous.
To me it seems like a extremely high percent of the residents in Wichita are White, politically/socially conservative and born in the 1960s or earlier.
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Old 02-09-2023, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Wichita, Kansas
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7409 people moved away from Kansas. But more people are moving to Oklahoma and a lot more to Texas. Maybe you need to move to one of those states. But if you're a devoted homebody, I know doing that is hard to do.
I am not a native of KS. I have no issue with relocating.
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Old 02-09-2023, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Well you’ll never know what happens in 2022 if you’re only really validating the 2010 Census and the 2030 census
I predicted NJ to have 9.1 million people in 2020, when everyone said the census was going to show 8.7 million people. I really think NJ's population will hit 9.5 million in 2030... at the very least. Hudson County alone is throwing up 30,000 apartments per year and vacancy is at an all time low, and persons per household creeped up slightly in the 2021 ACS from the 2018 ACS. And then, the inner shore towns (Lakewood, Toms River, Lacey, Manchester, Berkeley, Howell, Wall, etc) are building thousands of units per too. Lakewood, especially... I think in 2022 they saw a net inventory increase of 2700 housing units.
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Old 02-09-2023, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Atlanta metro (Cobb County)
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To me it seems like a extremely high percent of the residents in Wichita are White, politically/socially conservative and born in the 1960s or earlier.
Wichita's age distribution is actually younger than the national average (link below - which also has race/ethnicity numbers). Yes, it is a majority conservative area but voting results suggest there are a significant number of residents who have liberal views. Best wishes finding a location that suits you better.

https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US,wichitacitykansas/PST045222,PST045221
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Old 02-09-2023, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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Basically...They show the same pattern for estimates and then when the official census comes out, those states show some population growth.
Yeah its annoying... they always assume the states loose a ton of people .. and then the states end up gaining so many more.
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