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Old 03-30-2023, 10:59 AM
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Raleigh MSA: 1,484,338 (+32,870 from 2021 estimates)
Durham-Chapel Hill MSA: 664,310 (+7,310)

Triangle CSA: 2,190,786 (+40,215)
Hopefully, the Census Bureau combined these areas into one MSA. We'll find out in May.
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Old 03-30-2023, 10:59 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Originally Posted by Heel82 View Post
Raleigh MSA: 1,484,338 (+32,870 from 2021 estimates)
Durham-Chapel Hill MSA: 664,310 (+7,310)

Triangle CSA: 2,190,786 (+40,215)
Beat me to it, but here are some details:

North Carolina: 10,698,973 (+133,088)

Raleigh MSA
Wake (Raleigh): 1,175,021 (+22,664)
Johnston: 234,778 (3,441)
Franklin: 74,539 (+2,741)

Durham-Chapel Hill MSA
Durham: (Durham): 332,680 (+2,981)
Orange: (Chapel Hill): 150,477 (+1,867)
Chatham: 79,864 (+1,753)
Granville: 61,903 (+495)
Person: 39,386 (+214)

Henderson Micropolitan Area
Vance: 42,138 (+35)

The growth total doesn't add up to +40,215 because it appears that estimates for 2021 were upwardly updated.
Growth continues to be particularly centered on Wake County.
All counties in the CSA grew, albeit some by very little.
Raleigh's 2 eastern suburban counties in its MSA continue to overperform by growth rate, and one of them continues to add more people than the core MSA county of Durham.
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Old 03-30-2023, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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It looks like Houston is back to gaining its pre- oil slump numbers.

The 2022 numbers put it at 7,337,551 in 2022.
The 2021 number was 7,206,841. That would put it at an annual increase of 130,710. Pretty solid growth.

I got 7,943,685 for DFW. An annual growth of 184K. Just astounding. DFW should be over 8M in the the MSA by now putting it even closer to Chicago than to Atlanta and Miami in population.

I got Austin at 2,421,115. A yearly increase of 68k. Looks like Austin passed Pittsburgh and maybe Sacramento. Only Portland separates Austin and San Antonio.

San Antonio is at 2,655,342. An increase of 54k.

Austin is now at 26 and SA still at 24. But they should be 24 and 25 before the next census
Looks like Denton County could pass 1 million sometime this year. Fort Bend is on pace to come up just short of the 1 million mark by the 2030 census. But they will pass it within a decade.
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Old 03-30-2023, 11:13 AM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Aside from first place Maricopa, all the 10 counties with the largest absolute growth from 2021-2022 were in Texas and Florida.

Metro areas and numeric gains listed below. Coincidentally, five counties each voted blue and red in 2020.

1) Maricopa, AZ - Phoenix - 56,831
2) Harris, TX - Houston - 45,626

3) Collin, TX - Dallas/Fort Worth - 44,246
4) Denton, TX - Dallas/Fort Worth - 33,424
5) Polk, FL - Lakeland/Winter Haven - 32,225
6) Lee, FL - Cape Coral/Fort Myers - 31,777

7) Fort Bend, TX - Houston - 29,022
8) Hillsborough, FL - Tampa/St. Petersburg - 28,846
9) Bexar, TX - San Antonio - 28,635

10) Montgomery, TX - Houston - 28,229
These numbers were pre peak 2022 Hurricane season. I'll be interested to see if/how Hurricane Ian last September affected Lee County, Florida's numbers.
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Old 03-30-2023, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
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The county estimates are released under 'Vintage 2022' at the link below.

https://www.census.gov/data/tables/t...ies-total.html
That’s where I found them. Once again, on public release day, I am frustrated with the CB’s way of making people like us hunt and peck to find the numbers. The link should be in our faces as soon as we enter the website.
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Old 03-30-2023, 11:48 AM
 
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I still think these estimates suck. No way Brooklyn lost over 5% of its population in two years. And it has like no impact negative impact on house/rent prices? Manhattan down 7%? With no negative shock to rent prices? (In fact NY is a lot more expensive than in 2019)

Make literally no sense

It’s not reflected in GDP growth either. Something smells funny

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Old 03-30-2023, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Interesting looking at numbers out west - El Paso County (COS) added 8000 people, but I'd reckon there's over 8000 people's worth of housing under construction right now with no budge in prices. I wonder whose the one miscalculating, developers or census? Denver county supposedly dropped in population 4000.

NM is flat all around basically. Multnomah county in Oregon (Portland) supposedly lost 21,000 people, or down 2.7%. Ouch! For a formerly fast growing city.
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Old 03-30-2023, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Bergen County, New Jersey
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I still think these estimates suck. No way Brooklyn lost over 5% of its population in two years. And it has like no impact negative impact on house/rent prices? Manhattan down 7%? With no negative shock to rent prices? (In fact NY is a lot more expensive than in 2019)

Make literally no sense

It’s not reflected in GDP growth either. Something smells funny
ACS is absolutely horrible on estimating cities and dense areas.
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Old 03-30-2023, 12:13 PM
 
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Beat me to it, but here are some details:

North Carolina: 10,698,973 (+133,088)

Raleigh MSA
Wake (Raleigh): 1,175,021 (+22,664)
Johnston: 234,778 (3,441)
Franklin: 74,539 (+2,741)

Durham-Chapel Hill MSA
Durham: (Durham): 332,680 (+2,981)
Orange: (Chapel Hill): 150,477 (+1,867)
Chatham: 79,864 (+1,753)
Granville: 61,903 (+495)
Person: 39,386 (+214)

Henderson Micropolitan Area
Vance: 42,138 (+35)

The growth total doesn't add up to +40,215 because it appears that estimates for 2021 were upwardly updated.
Growth continues to be particularly centered on Wake County.
All counties in the CSA grew, albeit some by very little.
Raleigh's 2 eastern suburban counties in its MSA continue to overperform by growth rate, and one of them continues to add more people than the core MSA county of Durham.
Those retroactive additions are a bit funny. According to the numbers in the table, the Birmingham metro actually shrank this year compared to last year down to 1,116,857. The estimate last year was 1,114,262. Though that's nothing on Tuscaloosa. The county added 1,112 to become 236,780. Last year the county was estimated to be 227,007.
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Old 03-30-2023, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Research Triangle Area, NC
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Hopefully, the Census Bureau combined these areas into one MSA. We'll find out in May.
This (re) combination of the Triangle into one singular MSA; along with Brunswick County being brough back into the Wilmington MSA would both be the most logical changes that could happen in NC. Though that certainly doesn't mean there is a good chance that would happen.
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